Got excited need some help.

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Got excited need some help.

Postby James Sharp » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:04 am

Alrighty then. So i get mega excited and wanted to attempt getting some training in on with the cool site i found here.


http://www.videocopilot.net/basic/

Pretty much my goal was to get a few small clips via virtual dub mod and practice some of the techniques taught on the website to get to know ae a bit..


Now back in the day you could thrown just about anything into virtual dub mod and it would would crap out a clean uncompressed segment of video.. however now im having trouble with it.. for one i cannot even find it.. and for two aparently there are 2 versions.. virtual dub.. and virtual dub mod.. need to figure out how to make either one of those work for what i need it for.. and that is getting clean source footage so i can go about learning ae..

Also. thank you all for being paitent with my overly excited and poorly composed chain posts.. im just really excited and i really do apreciate all the help.
Close calls are always the most exciting. Coming close is always the most dissapointing.

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I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby James Sharp » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:21 am

the error it keeps giving is "could not locate decompresser for format h264"
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My newest vid:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby -Reda- » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:46 am

James Sharp wrote:Alrighty then. So i get mega excited and wanted to attempt getting some training in on with the cool site i found here.
http://www.videocopilot.net/basic/

James Sharp wrote:the error it keeps giving is "could not locate decompresser for format h264"

James Sharp wrote:First i would like to say i posted this same topic in another thread. but i get the feeling i posted it in the wrong spot. so to correct my mistake i am posting here. With that said i will go into my original question.

Hello all thank you for taking the time to view this post. I have been a long time member of the site and i have even had my hand at a few videos. However most of my videos have been painfully simple as both life and my own limitations have kept me from becoming decent at making music videos.

However I have recently come across quite a bit of free time and i am looking to become very skilled at video editing. As i begin to embark on this journey of mine i have a few questions i would like to first ask. and hopefully the wonderful community of these forums will be able to assist me on my journey to becoming a good amv creator.

My first question is this. I would like to know if the software i have is still acceptable to make a decent video. here is a list of what i own.

Adobe premier pro 7.0
Adobe After Effects 6.5 Professional
Adobe Photoshop cs 8.0

The good news is that i got all of these programs for about 200 bucks from a pal of mine who was using them for school.

the bad news is im not sure if they are even half decent to make a good music video that can stand up to todays standards of the amv site.

So if you dont mind please let me know if my software is currently up to date enough for the job.

Also i would like to know if my comp can handle the work. here is my comp specs.

Amd athlon 64 x2 3800
2 gigs ddr
80 gig hd
ati radeon hd 3850

so ya.. if im good to go please let me know.. if i need an upgrade also please let me know.

Thank you all very much for your time and hopefully i can see yall around in the future as im sure i will have many questions.

James Sharp wrote:You have my apologies if this is a stupid question. but I have been doing some reading and from what i can tell it is entirely possible to make your entire music video from scratch all in after effects.. is this true?

If so what is the point of premire even existing.

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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby Mr Pilkington » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:13 am

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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby EvaFan » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:34 am

It's not about the software dude. It's about making what you want and enjoying the process and in some cases the reactions from your audience and their comments.

I've seen plenty of good AMV's from windows movie maker. The editor makes the amv's not the programs.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby ZephyrStar » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:46 am

Video Copilot


Just... No. Unless you want to make a demo reel or actually use those effects to accent a concept, you'll basically just be showing your audience you know how to copy tutorials. And that's fine, if that's really what you wanna do :ying:
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby Fall_Child42 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:59 pm

Did you people not read what he was asking?

He needs help using Vdubmod and getting Lagarith files ... He's only using Video Co-pilot to learn how AE works.

anywho this should likely be in the software help section of the forums.

Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides Lovingly Overhauled Largely by Zarxrax

should help with all of the things you need to do in order to get the lossless file out of VdubMod. There are step by step instructions. after that it's up to you!

Good luck buddy.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby Emotive » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:39 pm

excited
http://www.videocopilot.net/basic/

I stopped reading there, troll detected.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby James Sharp » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:30 pm

Emotive wrote:
excited
http://www.videocopilot.net/basic/

I stopped reading there, troll detected.


excuse me but what are you talking about?

Seems i am being met with some resistance. i should explain myself entirely.

A very long time ago, in the before time (aka 2002-2004) i got really into anime. I later found this site. I enjoyed the videos others made and soon become interested in making them myself. My first attempts were very crude. i would open up a music video someone else made in windows media player and open up a song i think fit it better in winamp. I would pause winamp and try to time the best i could.

Later i discovered that i could actually use movie maker to make my own music videos. so i did. i made the most basic and crude videos. Out of sync, lame. the whole nine yards.

So then my job got a bit more permanent and ended up consuming alot more of my time. I stopped making my lil videos in windows. However i was fortunate enough to get ahold of a few editing programs premire/photoshop.

When i found a bit of free time i began work on my "Hear you me" project it was my first venture into photoshop and premire. It was a very simple and crude project aswell. however my heart was in it. so i will always be proud of it.

Once again shortly after my work began to take most of my life again and somehow between that i managed to upload a video that was not finished. it in my opinion was actually decent. however it was unfinished due to me having a job that demands way to much out of me.

Both of the videos found there respective ways into a-m-v.org... actually all the videos i have done are here...uploaded at one time or another.

so... about 3 or 4 years or whatever goes by.. i mainly did two things.. work/family.. and play wow when i was not working. i also would fiddle in photoshop as that became a sort of hobby of mine.

Now that brings us to about two weeks ago.. i had not visited the site in a while. so i visited to find this amazing site stronger than ever. The community has become so insanely skilled with what they can do its amazing.

anyways i download an amv off the top 100 list.. it was called "live" and featured a sort of acoustic version of the song "life is beautiful" by six am..

and like flicking on a light switch i was inspired. So i thought about it and decided to give amv making another shot... my work has finally settled down into a regular schedule and the timing just seems right.

Now to mention i love learning about stuff like video editing.. its fascinating. so i looked up a few posts and found that video co pilot site.. it would teach me about after effects
(a program i always had but never used because it was to hard.)

so in my excitement i dug up my programs and came here first to ask if my comp and software was good enough. when i had the ok on that end i started where i left off.. using virtual dub to try to get source footage. i was excited to watch the lessons on the site and to start attempting to do everything the site taught me.

In that excitement i came here and made a fool out of myself by asking obviously stupid question.

You have my apologies. but i am in no way a troll.

like i said im just a guy who got way to excited way to fast..

Now that that is out of the way here is my current issue.. i take my dvd.. put it in the drive.. rip it.. and turns into video and audio files.. i then use dg index to do something i dont understand with it.. and then use virtual dub to scrub the footage and take clips that intrest me for my video.. sound about right to all of you?
Close calls are always the most exciting. Coming close is always the most dissapointing.

My newest vid:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby EvaFan » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:46 pm

If you have alot of ram and cpu power you can easily just edit with the .d2v that dgindex made for you instead of making clips. You just need the AVS plugin for premiere, supposedly there is one for AE now but its kinda moot cause most people make their clips in premiere anyway.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby James Sharp » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:30 am

Eva-Fan wrote:If you have alot of ram and cpu power you can easily just edit with the .d2v that dgindex made for you instead of making clips. You just need the AVS plugin for premiere, supposedly there is one for AE now but its kinda moot cause most people make their clips in premiere anyway.


would 2 gigs be good enough?

That sounds alot better than making select clips... only problem i can see is space.. how much do you figure a 25 or so dvd rips takes up.. space wise.. with the method that you just suggested.
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My newest vid:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=98816
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby EvaFan » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:27 am

I just use a 2.3ghz AMD cpu and 2gig ram. It runs smoothly for a laptop, of course it's not realtime playback in premiere unless I take out the extra functions on my avisynth script. If the only thing you have on your script is the basic stuff like resize (assuming the resize isn't huge), cropping, deinterlacing, saturation (and any other color changes) the playback on premiere should be smooth enough to deal with. If you start adding all kinds of other functions to clean the source it will lower the FPS to a point that editing/scrubing becomes tough. Best thing to do is to add those just before encoding.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby EvaFan » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:39 am

James Sharp wrote:how much do you figure a 25 or so dvd rips takes up.. space wise.. with the method that you just suggested.


I can't tell if this is being serious or not but seriously... Just rip a dvd then x25?
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby ExSphere » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:58 am

James Sharp wrote:
only problem i can see is space.. how much do you figure a 25 or so dvd rips takes up.. space wise.. with the method that you just suggested.


It depends on the DVD, but the average DVD has about 3 - 4 episodes on it, and after you've turned it into a lossless will be about 20GB roughly. So your looking at 500GB. If your going to take this hobby seriously, you might want to get a 1TB external.
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Re: Got excited need some help.

Postby Nya-chan Production » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:01 am

Or get better RAM and mount files :<
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