Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

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Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby H3L xSHARINGANx » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:43 pm

I've been a member to these forums for a few days. The general attitude towards Naruto AMVs seems negative and unwanted. I just wanted to know why that is. :p

surely one's opinion should be based on how good the AMV is, not what it's source is.

I say this intending to make a Naruto Shippuden AMV in the next few weeks. Just hope it's appreciated. ;)
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Animated » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:45 pm

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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Knowname » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:58 pm

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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Kariudo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:55 pm

Animated wrote:http://www.animemusicvideos.org/lists/usedanime.php
Now you know why.

Elaborating a bit more...
When a series is used a lot, there's a lot more mediocre AMVs than "good" ones (good is, of course, subjective. I'm also not saying an AMV using an obscure series will make it good, just that there's less schmuck to wade through.)

Lots of Naruto AMVs use the same type of music, and use the same scenes, and generally fails to impress as everyone has seen the same thing a thousand times before...so it makes it a lot harder for a Naruto AMV to stand out (and makes it pretty easy to just cast it into the sea of "standard" Naruto AMVs.)

There are some exceptional Naruto AMVs out there, but even if every post in that thread had 5 distinct videos, it would only amount to less than 2.5% of the Naruto vids in the catalog

Moral of the story:
If you want to make Naruto AMVs for fun and for you, more power to ya.
If you want to make Naruto AMVs to impress this crowd, it's gonna be pretty tough (and not so much fun.)
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Vivaldi » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:02 pm

Kariudo wrote:
Animated wrote:http://www.animemusicvideos.org/lists/usedanime.php
Now you know why.

Elaborating a bit more...
When a series is used a lot, there's a lot more mediocre AMVs than "good" ones (good is, of course, subjective. I'm also not saying an AMV using an obscure series will make it good, just that there's less schmuck to wade through.)

Lots of Naruto AMVs use the same type of music, and use the same scenes, and generally fails to impress as everyone has seen the same thing a thousand times before...so it makes it a lot harder for a Naruto AMV to stand out (and makes it pretty easy to just cast it into the sea of "standard" Naruto AMVs.)

There are some exceptional Naruto AMVs out there, but even if every post in that thread had 5 distinct videos, it would only amount to less than 2.5% of the Naruto vids in the catalog

Moral of the story:
If you want to make Naruto AMVs for fun and for you, more power to ya.
If you want to make Naruto AMVs to impress this crowd, it's gonna be pretty tough (and not so much fun.)


This. If you just want to chill, make a Naruto amv, have fun, and share it: go for it. But if you actually want to impress people, be prepared, because the bar's been set through the fucking roof.

Also, unless you mention otherwise, people will assumed you're posting for serious critique, not the other way around.
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby H3L xSHARINGANx » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:08 pm

I'll agree that there are way too many bad AMVs based on Naruto. It's just the good ones that make me intereted in making one.

This AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlsDK7almu4 is what inspired me. It's simple, yet gets your adreniline going. It's an example of a great AMV that one can actually look at and think "I can do that." All it takes is timing, choice of scenes and a music track that fits.

That's what I think anyway, I've never made an AMV, but I've just started one, which I think is going amazingly well. "/
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Vivaldi » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:03 pm

H3L xSHARINGANx wrote:I'll agree that there are way too many bad AMVs based on Naruto. It's just the good ones that make me intereted in making one.

This AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlsDK7almu4 is what inspired me. It's simple, yet gets your adreniline going. It's an example of a great AMV that one can actually look at and think "I can do that." All it takes is timing, choice of scenes and a music track that fits.

That's what I think anyway, I've never made an AMV, but I've just started one, which I think is going amazingly well. "/


That's a great editing philosophy to have (and one we need more of), many people are so enthralled with flashy effects they forget the most important part is just effective editing and atmosphere.

Still, the amv catalog is very saturated with naruto vids, even good ones. For instance, several highly popular amvs have been made with the combination you posted (with hell song)



Check out the preview, it uses much faster paced editing, but it also uses few effects. And even that got lukewarm response.

Best of luck, just be warned, you will end up running into cynics, it's the nature of the beast.
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Vivaldi » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:07 pm

Vivaldi wrote:
H3L xSHARINGANx wrote:I'll agree that there are way too many bad AMVs based on Naruto. It's just the good ones that make me intereted in making one.

This AMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlsDK7almu4 is what inspired me. It's simple, yet gets your adreniline going. It's an example of a great AMV that one can actually look at and think "I can do that." All it takes is timing, choice of scenes and a music track that fits.

That's what I think anyway, I've never made an AMV, but I've just started one, which I think is going amazingly well. "/


That's a great editing philosophy to have (and one we need more of), many people are so enthralled with flashy effects they forget the most important part is just effective editing and atmosphere.

Still, the amv catalog is very saturated with naruto vids, even good ones. For instance, several highly popular amvs have been made with the combination you posted (with hell song)



Check out the preview, it uses much faster paced editing, but it also uses few effects. And even that got lukewarm response.

Best of luck, just be warned, you will end up running into cynics, it's the nature of the beast.


Edit: my bad, it does use some effects. Same general point though.
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Castor Troy » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:35 pm

Damn, I got 2 Naruto ideas. :?

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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Mr Pilkington » Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:13 am

Animated wrote:http://www.animemusicvideos.org/lists/usedanime.php

Now you know why.



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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Animated » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:15 am

And something more. You're not going anywhere with a name like that. :amv:
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby kireblue » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:27 am

I consider myself to primarily be a Drama editor. So with this in mind, I really enjoy amvs with good concepts and themes. But for the most part, about 90% of Naruto amvs fall into one of these 3 categories in terms of theme. "Naruto's inner Kyubi struggle", Sasuke's curse mark struggle", or "Naruto and Sasuke are rivals and best friends that fight each other in a valley struggle". Another 4% consist of Sakura vs ino themes. 4 more percent for videos that consist of Sakura loving Sasuke, Naruto loving Sakura, or some random love triangle. And the last 2% are good videos that are unique but are lost in a endless sea of shitty youtube amvs.

That is why I don't watch Naruto amvs anymore. Although.....last week, I did watch a really cool one called "Debut".

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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Athena » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:58 am

I will echo that you do whatever you want. It's your video. However, I will be brutally honest with you: I won't watch it, and neither will most of the people who are regulars on the site. Your reception is likely to be short, you may even be actively trolled. Just saying you won't impress people is an understatement. I think people are tiptoeing around what would be their real reaction since you asked so nicely.

Fair warning, your initial assessment was correct: as a community we take a negative view of Naruto as a source and rarely practice what we preach when it comes to "source doesn't matter." If we want to take a moment of self-reflection, we have to admit that all sources are equal, but some sources are more equal than others. And Naruto? Less equal.

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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby H3L xSHARINGANx » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:19 pm

Animated wrote:And something more. You're not going anywhere with a name like that. :amv:


My name is just my Xbox Live Gamertag, I didn't put much thought into it.

Well, I'm still gonna do what I want. If people don't like it, screw them. Just for notes, the AMV I'm making is based on Jiraiya vs. Pain. Yeah, I downloaded the episodes illegally. I really wanted to do JvP and I own everything Naruto that's out in UK on DVD, so I don't consider myself a pirate. ^_^
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Re: Naruto AMVs aren't wanted?

Postby Emotive » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:36 pm

H3L xSHARINGANx wrote:Well, I'm still gonna do what I want. If people don't like it, screw them.

I'm not saying there's a chance I'd like what you're preparing, but that actually is a cool way to think while making a video. Try not to keep that way of thinking upon announcing it though, as any constructive criticism beyond "that sucked" can make you better.

Which, in a way of thought, leads to another thing that's wrong with usual Naruto amv's. Most people here that could actually say useful things to you most likely wouldn't watch it, and even if they did they'd be sick of having said the same things they'd have to say about it all over again, so they just wouldn't bother. ):

But yeah, to elaborate on why the lack of criticism you will receive is bad, from personal experience I have to say I found criticism on my old videos quite useful. They certainly played their part in me getting better and not making the same shit all over again. Though a small part, as I believe the thing that improves one most in the beginning of their "hobby-career" is watching more good videos, thinking about how they would go about creating anything they see, as well as the exact opposite, seeing what's been done and trying not to imitate them so as to be unique. But that small part can make a big difference too after a certain point..
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