Knowname wrote:there are a TON more users there who think they can spit a video out in a couple hours and be done with it! I just don't see how we can take the place of YT when many of their users are coming over here. We must make it clear to them that we are NOT YTT, we DO NOT want and CAN NOT have the attention and legal issues that YT gets. I do NOT want this new stream of users to bring us down
The first point is true. To the extent that the second is true, what we would be seeing is a reversion to the state of things in the period 2003-2006, when we had local and YouTube didn't exist. We would only be getting AMV ediors and viewers, not idiots who rebroadcast fansubs/streams/official releases. Somehow, we survived back then, and while we had legal issues, they were resolved without lawsuits.
Knowname wrote:Your gonna wait till Phade gets fined 3 million dollars (and Piratebay got off cheap if you ask me) for copyright infringement and abating a crime then your gonna sit at home and think 'well maybe if we did this...'
Where are you getting this from? The concern about "50 users with 100+ local uploads" is in relation to this being a technical problem, not a legal one. The legal problem is there with one AMV on local or a hundred thousand. Should another 40 users, in addition to the 8 alluded to by doki, the one dude already mentioned by name, and myself, within the next year go over 100 locally-hosted videos, I and likely the admin team will admit that this influx that you're hyperventilating about is actually happening, and may be something to become concerned about.
It's not going to happen, though.
Knowname wrote:if left unabated stunts such as these won't be very kind to our servers to say the least. As I said, the org has always had a reputation of being for the 'elite' right now ppl are still struggling with avis, we've been using mp4s for 2, 3 years now. The norm, in fact the EXPECTED media of uploads has been mp4s for a while now, how many of this girls' amvs are mp4s? none, out of like 20 uploaded. If that is what we can expect multiplied by the dozens of immigrators we get from YT then get ready for those HDs to fill in HALF the time due to the inferior encodes alone! And you don't expect to only get 4000 uploads next year IF a bunch of Yootubers add on do you? Never mind the original users we'll have at LEAST 4000 plus maybe... 1500 BADLY ENCODED videos next year? Double that second number since their badly encoded and you get 7000 nearly twice as much. Something too worry about? maybe not, maybe. But it won't last us no 10 years. Things like these tend to propigate not wait till we're ready for them.
Should the following things be true, we might have a problem:
1) A historically unprecedented number of people make a historically unprecedented number of videos in a short time.
2) A significant number of these people eschew the speed and simplicity of the YouTube upload process to take the relatively more complex and time-consuming step of publishing their work on the .org, and actually follow through with publishing all of it.
3) Too few of them donate relative to their uploaded throw weight to allow for an upgrade path.
Only the third is likely in any realistic sense. The most likely case is that, absent another significant dislocation, equivalent to YouTube effectively ceasing to exist for AMV purposes, current trends will continue. Uploads per year will continue to drop, along with downloads per week. Take a look at any random week on the star scale this year and see how many videos had at least 80 stars that week. Then take a look at the same week from 2006 and marvel at the difference. I agree that complacency is death to any DIY endeavor, but things may not really be as black as they get painted sometimes.
--K





