Soup wrote:Owned
True, his account did get banned.
Soup wrote:Owned
BasharOfTheAges wrote:There's always the important part (i.e. the whole fucking point) of google being a multi-billion dollar company that has the clout to make deals and fight court battles when the shit hits the fan with regards to organizations like the RIAA getting uppity. We have no such protection, influence, clout, or money. The anime companies don't care about us all that much.
JudgeHolden wrote:How can we change this (if we want to)? Do we need to promote the Org more at cons? Is our version of streaming enough?


verlocs wrote:Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.
verlocs wrote:Your version of streaming is a huge improvement from years ago.
Maybe the Org could grow into a rights advocacy group. The EFF is aware of amvs and mashups but they really don't care about them that much because not many of their members are amv editors. Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.
Yes.Kionon wrote:Improvement of what? Streaming?
It's not abused it's an expectation. Look, this isn't 1999, AJAX and web 2.0 is the way people expect things to be. If you're gonna show video you show it in a browser, you don't expect people to download it.Preview is useful, but in general, I think it's abused. It should maybe only include the first thirty seconds of a video or something. It's not a preview when you can watch the whole thing.
Maybe the Org could grow into a rights advocacy group. The EFF is aware of amvs and mashups but they really don't care about them that much because not many of their members are amv editors. Raise money, donate to the EFF, do something to actually protect the medium you care about.
Those of us who are from the early days are quite paranoid about this. I for one would rather just make as small a splash as possible. We're too afraid the Org will be shut down.


verlocs wrote:It's not abused it's an expectation. Look, this isn't 1999, AJAX and web 2.0 is the way people expect things to be. If you're gonna show video you show it in a browser, you don't expect people to download it.
Then get proactive about dealing with it. If you let your opponents paint the picture first you're inevitably going to be cast as the bad guy, so... go to them first. If that means adopting a youtube style advertising-attached-to-identified-content style model where you cut in the license holders in exchange for tolerance, then at least you've secured your continued existence.
Kionon wrote:verlocs wrote:It's not abused it's an expectation. Look, this isn't 1999, AJAX and web 2.0 is the way people expect things to be. If you're gonna show video you show it in a browser, you don't expect people to download it.
That's a rather childish attitude, and the very reason why there is a grain of truth in my GOML (Get Off My Lawn) jokes. The ability to preview videos, the ability to have videos even hosted at all, is a privilege, not a right. The very fact you bring up 1999, a year in which some of us did our best to host videos on studio websites, using our own personal treasure to get our videos out there, is exactly why I am so frustrated at the streaming video (oh, no filter, let's be blunt, YouTube) generation to demand everything immediately as a matter of course.
No, sir, I'm not going to be your dancing monkey.
Knowname wrote:I'm thinking more the industry should just give up on charging for non-premium content and leave us be.


verlocs wrote:The developer and administrator of a service doesn't get to quibble about unanticipated usage habits that they did not take steps to prevent. There's nothing technological preventing you from implementing a technological change that would mandate the usage pattern you advocate, so if you have not done so then the question is why. Clearly if as you say the service is being used to see videos in full (which I would say that it most certainly is), then the service must be costing you bandwidth and thus offers a tangible savings return on the time investment to implement a technological fix.
guardiansoulblade wrote:I DO think some people DO use downloaded footage here...You know who you are.



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