AMV Concept Map

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AMV Concept Map

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:40 pm

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click the image for large version [6358x4220 - 909KB]
Save it to your computer so you can zoom in/out easier.

The original .vue file can be found here [562KB]
you will need VUE (Visual Understanding Environment) in order to open it.

Basically, I'm learning how to use this program for presentation purposes, so I thought I would make a
concept map with something I like. :P

It started getting complicated so either I'm going to abandon the projector or let the community have it;
because maybe there's a way to collaborate-- currently VUE does not have these capabilities, and I have
yet to find a program/website that has everything I want. It's even possible to export to an html file with
hyper-links and notes, but I don't really have hosting for that, and the interface is kinda hard to navigate
without the ability to zoom in/out. I predict the internet will make better use of this type of technology in
the future. It really helps clarify ideas/relationships, and is excellent for deep understanding of concepts.
Just think what it would be like if I added that section about The Guides...
Plus, how many times have we discussed the same topic over and over again?-- With a concept map,
everything written about a particular topic can be put into one location and linked to on the map.

There's probably stuff you will disagree with [like AMV Genres, and AMV Composition Techniques, which I
completely made up from my own experiences] but don't forget that this is incomplete, and can always be
changed. Actually, I don't think it can ever be complete, so I encourage discussion.

Anyways, there it is.

Thoughts?
Is any of this accurate?
corrections? changes? improvements?
better program?
make your own? collaborate? add to it?
...etc


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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Mr Pilkington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:46 pm

You forgot "win" and "cheesecake"
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby NS » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:52 pm

You also forgot " :ying: ", and the doctor phase.


It cool though, I kinda glanced through it and thought it was pretty interesting.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby mirkosp » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:13 pm

It was awesome, but I raged when I saw that you only listed 480p for SD content. 576p FKNWHERE!?!?! :evil:

I'd also add a couple more sites to find amvs, amvnews.ru in primis.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:29 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:You forgot "win" and "cheesecake"
But it's nowhere near the win or cheesecake phase yet.


NerdStrudel wrote:You also forgot " :ying: ", and the doctor phase.
It cool though, I kinda glanced through it and thought it was pretty interesting.
I'm not sure where these type of things would fit on the map.


mirkosp wrote:It was awesome, but I raged when I saw that you only listed 480p for SD content. 576p FKNWHERE!?!?! :evil:
If you want you make a submap for Resolution, and maybe I'll merge it later ;)


mirkosp wrote:I'd also add a couple more sites to find amvs, amvnews.ru in primis.
Oh yeah, that's another thing I want to mention-- if anyone has a list of good amv websites, they can totally be added. Even studio websites. I put a couple just to get the general idea.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Nya-chan Production » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:37 pm

I see one problem in this versio - you include two big simmilar things together and don't mention it

One being "theory/making" - the left part, mainly
The other one being "the actual vid"

The have lot of common, and I would put those common things somewhere in the middle, linking to both sides. An example would be technical things - they are both in AMV Traits and AMV Techniques, while they are almost simmilar (not always the same for one vid, though, of course)
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Nya-chan Production » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:42 pm

Oh, hell, everything that can be executed can be spoken about, which you can take as "theory". I'd leave these two main things out completely and just focus on separate groups of info about AMVs and things about (and their linking) solely, leaving the theory out altogether.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Vivaldi » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:44 pm

That was so cool, I downloaded it twice.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Bauzi » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:56 pm

Screw you for haveing so much free time :|
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Kariudo » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:42 pm

Who do you think you are?

The only one who can make very large, overly complicated graphs about some obscure relation in the amv community is Trythil.

I demand a fight to the death
I'll be selling tickets for $50. Other than that, nice graph. "Company's" should be "Companies" I think Orphan Frame could be a part of technical traits
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby inthesto » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:07 pm

I took Phantasmagoriat's workflow and expanded on it.

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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Nya-chan Production » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:23 pm

inthesto wrote:I took Phantasmagoriat's workflow and expanded on it.

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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:56 am

Nya-chan Production wrote:I see one problem in this versio - you include two big simmilar things together and don't mention it

One being "theory/making" - the left part, mainly
The other one being "the actual vid"

The have lot of common, and I would put those common things somewhere in the middle, linking to both sides. An example would be technical things - they are both in AMV Traits and AMV Techniques, while they are almost simmilar (not always the same for one vid, though, of course)
I'm not really sure what you mean.
There is the "Editing" part, then there is the "AMV" part.
or the "Creating" and "Creation" parts.
Start/Finish

While I did notice the Starting point may have many common aspects with the Finishing point (especially regarding technical things), I didn't think merging the commonalities in the middle would be the best idea since editors have free reign over how they manipulate their A/V, so the "theory/making" could be totally different than "the actual vid."

If you simply want more connectivity showing how an editor gets from Start to Finish, I don't think that can be mapped realistically. This is the reason I have simply drawn a straight line from Editing--->AMV, and backed the whole process with "Theory" and "Technical Understanding"; because I believe these are the two things that determine our choices which get us from the Editing stage to the final AMV.



Nya-chan Production wrote:Oh, hell, everything that can be executed can be spoken about, which you can take as "theory". I'd leave these two main things out completely and just focus on separate groups of info about AMVs and things about (and their linking) solely, leaving the theory out altogether.
I highly disagree with this. The looong linkage from "Audience Response" to "Theory" is my supporting argument ;)



Vivaldi wrote:That was so cool, I downloaded it twice.
well, I could have put a "save as" link but I figure most people just want to click-view anyway; Then save it afterwards.



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I just got back from work. What's this I hear about free time? :|



Kariudo wrote:I demand a fight to the death
...with very large, overly complicated graphs? :roll:



inthesto wrote:I took Phantasmagoriat's workflow and expanded on it.

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Now if those nodes were Hadoukening out of the main topic I would be impressed.
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby downwithpants » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:04 am

phantasmagoriat = trythil?
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Re: AMV Concept Map

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:13 pm

downwithpants wrote:phantasmagoriat = trythil?

Have they ever been seen together in the same room? :shock:

Also - if we clean up and finish this we can just replace the entire General AMV sub-forum with it. It's not like any new ground is ever tread.
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