Does anyone else suffer form A.M.V.O.C.D.?

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Does anyone else suffer form A.M.V.O.C.D.?

Postby Mr Pilkington » Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:50 pm

Am I the only who finds himself suffering from AMVOCD? AMVOCD or Anime Music Videos Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is the state of mind in which you cannot seem to satiate the urge for perfection of video. Ever since I started doing DVD rips I cannot seem to make a prefect enough vid. Everyone is calling me insane. Not only do I spend ungodly amounts of money on DVD’s and software, but then I have to get every picture perfect. When I couldn’t find a frame where Unicron had his arms thrown in the air, I had to make one. Not to mention the real issues. Is it normal to spend hours at a time Photoshopping one picture just to insert back into Premiere for one simple frame of animation? Then doing that hundreds of time over, just for a few simple seconds of animation? I think so. I was just wondering if I am the only one. I know EK drew her own charactures to paste in her video "Failed Experiments in Video Editing." So this must not be unusual.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:55 pm

It's not insane... or if it is I'm certified.

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Postby trythil » Mon Jan 20, 2003 4:58 pm

You say "insane" like it's a bad thing.

I've invested over a month into making Rei cry and look good while doing it. One such sequence involves 20 layers, 12 of which need to be manually tweaked for every frame.

I'm also playing around with Maple and POV-Ray, trying to mathematically model the surface of water when disturbed by a falling object and generate an animation sequence out of that. (I'm not that good at math, so shaddup. I know it's a solved problem.)

I wouldn't give such activities the ambiguous connotation that "insanity" brings. It's more like "dedication".
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Postby The Wired Knight » Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:14 pm

I don't think anyone is ever one hundred percent satisfied with their videos. No matter how much I work or how much I watch there is always something I wish I had improved on, either a little bit or maybe an entire segment. When you make an AMV you toss around a hundred ideads of what could go where and what you could do with the anime or song. All these ideas will cause you to question just about everything you put in the video. So I honestly feel you can never be happy with it.
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Postby SQ » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:20 pm

"Some people think I suffer from insanity. They're wrong. I'm enjoying every minute of it"


























. . . But I'm not an AMV Perfectionist. :wink:
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Postby Nightowl » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:34 pm

Heh. spend a week with Gambitt and myself when we're on a roll. Insane? Not even close.

And here's a nice little quote for the rest of you - Projects are not completed, they're abandoned.

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Postby Vancore » Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:11 am

Perfection is often hard to perfect. If this makes any sense to you you know what I mean :wink:
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Postby ayanami_soul » Tue Jan 21, 2003 1:37 pm

striving for perfection does not mean anyone is "insane", just obsessive..we all want the "perfect" amv....and even when we think its perfect we watch it over and over and find more and more holes(faults)..oh well

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Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Jan 21, 2003 1:41 pm

AMVOCD is what made me give up on my last vid. :cry:
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Postby Ashton » Tue Jan 21, 2003 2:40 pm

You know, I think this issue was already addressed in the thread "are technical issues outstriping artistic merit" or whatever it was called. :D
But seriously, Kevin Caldwell made Angel with like, next to no "insane" effects and it's one of the most succesful AMV of all time. I came from having AMVOCD (for all thsoe of you who have seen my first video "Lies" you know how much I wanted to minipulate everything and make a technically superior) and I find that I am ivolving into the other direction. Some of the most impressive AMV of all time took next to no effort. Hell, my newest video took me 15 hours to make, and required litterally no effects, and it's been my most well recieved video to date. The truth of the matter is that the more expirience I earn, the more I learn that it totally doesn't matter, and I am, step by step, curing my AMVOCD.
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Postby OmniStrata » Tue Jan 21, 2003 3:18 pm

Why do so many people go by the "frame by frame" editing explanation?

Is it better in some way? The numbers I'd like to say suggest otherwise but to me, frame by frame is excessive... ^_^

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Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Jan 21, 2003 3:20 pm

I only jump to that as a last resort, but sometimes if you want a certain effect then the last resort has to be used.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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