So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby MimS » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:49 pm

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I can't read all this text, my english is not good enough for it... I'm sure it's very interesting though...
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby dazza1008 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:34 pm

At first I was like TL;DR ... but then I read it. :o

Funny - "writing a useful and detailed guide" was never mentioned in "how to be an org asshole" - IS IT POSSIBLE YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE???? :shock:

The colour theory is the most useful to me - I'd never really known it - and I could adjust the hue/saturation/luminosity/brightness/contrast of the footage. Just because it's fixed footage, doesn't mean I can't get something that adds to the effect. I mean, isn't that how people create their so-called RPCs?

Hey, there's no conclusion to your guide. :/ (quite appropriate that it ended on "large chunks of text" ) But I guess it would be pretty similar to the intro (which is what it's meant to be!)

"first we tell them what we'll tell them, then we tell them, then we tell them what we told them". Repetition, m'dear! Maybe something like "regardless of which method you choose, remember to {blah blah}"

And nice to read this, because at the mo I've got 2 ideas for AMVs with quite repetitive themes, and I need to know how to make it more interesting while not letting my ideas on how others would react rule the process.
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby dragontamer5788 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:18 pm

I agree with the vast majority of what you have to say about Lip Sync. Sometimes, it is useful to disrupt the flow of the video however to emphasize a couple of words in the lyrics. For example...



Despite the controlled randomness in the montage scenes (nicely mood synced, but he goes through a different anime every second...), the Lip Sync settles down and demonstrates to the audience who the main character is. It also sets up a base for the montage... in the mass of images and characters, only one character is ever Lip Synced, and it is always in the same setting (close to the computer thingy).

Second, I'm sure you're aware of the other forms of Lip Sync... but I thought I could mention them. It is possible to have action going on while you lip-sync. It just that it takes a bit of luck and requires more work.



I'm sure one, maybe two, of those are "accidental" lip syncs (we all had those, right? :-) ). But I'm sure heavy editing work was done so that K-Type was able to sync movements while lip syncing. (main character points to his head as he says "Something's on my mind tonight", dancing with the mop, etc. etc. The one ~1:30 is the best example methinks)
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby angelx03 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:45 pm

Pas wrote:Something's not quite right here...


Feels like a trap feeling ya', right? :lol:

That Motivation section is something that really needs to be kept in the back of everyone's mind. :up:

(of course, it is also important to have some basic competency in editing)
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby godix » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:35 pm

Knowname wrote:Isn't there like 3 of these floating around now?? What tha fuck?? Thanks alot Godix :down: you just add to the rest of the org sesspool seriously lame.

I've seen your videos, you obviously didn't understand anything about decent editing the first couple times around so I figured I'd present it again...

ngsilver wrote:Godix for most helpful!

God damnit, it's no fun if I earn it.

Jwalk0 wrote:Extremely detailed and powerful info. I have a question, do you mind if I copy this, make it a video and broadcast it on YT for my subscribers and friends?

In general I assume anything I put on the internet is fair game to be copied or modified regardless of if I gave my permission or not. So you're free to do what you want with it. I question a video of it since it is rather long but whatever, have fun. Lord knows the tube does need some clue about decent editing.

dazza1008 wrote:Funny - "writing a useful and detailed guide" was never mentioned in "how to be an org asshole" - IS IT POSSIBLE YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE????

Fuck you, you cum guzzling pre-simian bastard. God created flies, maggots, cockroaches, ticks, leeches, and ebola but the creation of you was undoubtedly his masterpiece in things that sicken and destroy humanity. We should trace back your bloodline and kill any sibling, cousin, or indeed anyone with even a trace of your families DNA in order to cleanse humanity of our plague. As well we need to eliminate anyone who would mate with you, which means we'll need to exterminate all sewer rats and any sheep that is unable to outrun you. Fucking trying to change, are you kidding me?

dazza1008 wrote:Hey, there's no conclusion to your guide.

I didn't think anyone would actually read to the end.
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:38 pm

Why does it feel like some of the phraseology is pulled from things i've read before?

Also - nice job with it. I think a bit of a kick to be adventurous in your NLE of choice wouldn't hurt either. I know just fucking around in AE or Premiere with wild ideas can sometimes lead to... well, crap in my case, but somewhat innovative crap at least.
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby Jwalk0 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:02 pm

I appreciate it Godix :up:
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:31 am

It'd be nice to see something about montage or cut theory added to one of these guides one day. I see you touched on it a bit when you mentioned film techniques. The Color Theory bit was quite interesting, I'd never actually heard about that until now. Actually that was probably one of the best, most helpful guides I've read on the subject of helping new editors improve, geez man, you're actually going to EARN most helpful at this rate.
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby ngsilver » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:45 am

Whops, knew I forgot to do something!

Knowname wrote:Isn't there like 3 of these floating around now?? What tha fuck?? Thanks alot Godix :down: you just add to the rest of the org sesspool seriously lame.

Godix for most helpful!
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby -MD » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:12 am

Fuckin finally! Color theory!! You did a pretty damn good job hehe :book: Nice...
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby Bauzi » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:39 am

I think this should go into the guides sections. Very well done. :o
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby mirkosp » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:54 am

G'damn, godix writing a useful guide either means that the org reached the bottom or the end of the world is close...
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby dazza1008 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:36 pm

godix wrote:Fuck you, you cum guzzling pre-simian bastard. God created flies, maggots, cockroaches, ticks, leeches, and ebola but the creation of you was undoubtedly his masterpiece in things that sicken and destroy humanity. We should trace back your bloodline and kill any sibling, cousin, or indeed anyone with even a trace of your families DNA in order to cleanse humanity of our plague. As well we need to eliminate anyone who would mate with you, which means we'll need to exterminate all sewer rats and any sheep that is unable to outrun you. Fucking trying to change, are you kidding me?


Oooh, attention! *ish happy*

But stop talking about yourself in the third person, else I will LOSE FAITH.

And you can do another guide on how to be a good YouTube video editor - make sure the footage has subs (or even low-quality animated GIFs from the internet) to get people's sympathy, use as many effects as possible, flashing on every beat, and using the selective colour replacement to create a RPC (role-playing character - supposedly an original creation) :up:

(and btw, it's true - they LIKE those kinds of videos)
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby godix » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:44 am

ArashinomeAMV wrote:It'd be nice to see something about montage or cut theory added to one of these guides one day. I see you touched on it a bit when you mentioned film techniques. The Color Theory bit was quite interesting, I'd never actually heard about that until now. Actually that was probably one of the best, most helpful guides I've read on the subject of helping new editors improve, geez man, you're actually going to EARN most helpful at this rate.


Feel free to discuss montage theory if you like and I may roll it in, personally I don't know enough about that to do it justice. Film ain't my thing, you'll notice most of that part actually originates from theories about still images like paintings but can be applied to video. Glad to know some people are thinking about that part though. To often editors get the mindset of they'll make a video just like Euphoria or Spoil or whatever the fad amv of the month is and the end result is a carbon copy of an AMV that already exists. Even the helpful people around here don't help that much by pointing people to good AMVs as examples of what to do, that carries the unspoken implication of 'so copy what they do exactly'. There are centuries of art theory and art styles which can be modified and applied to videos to produce something unique among the hobby. I tried to make it possible to at least think about looking outside the hobby for inspiration without sounding like a pretentious dickhead, although I do note the text file on my HD is named 'artistic faggot guide.txt'

As for earning most helpful, why is everyone stabbing me in the back like this? Come on, I did just release a how to be an asshole guide as well (which, incidentally, has more replies. Apparently you people are more interested in being assholes than being good editors. Granted that's not all that surprising). What more does a man have to do to protect his reputation?
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Re: So You Want To Be A *GOOD* Anime Music Video Editor?

Postby LittleAtari » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:35 am

godix wrote:As for earning most helpful, why is everyone stabbing me in the back like this? Come on, I did just release a how to be an asshole guide as well (which, incidentally, has more replies. Apparently you people are more interested in being assholes than being good editors. Granted that's not all that surprising). What more does a man have to do to protect his reputation?

Just admit it already. You want to be loved.
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