Sick of this bad talk!

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Postby OmniStrata » Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:06 am

I make amvs to win friends and influence people ^_^
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Postby Garylisk » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:03 am

Freako wrote:me thinks this list is a bit flawed.


Why do you say that?

Lyrs wrote:Or....if you're soooo bored, why don't you put more life into the vids. Edit some videos already outa nd put some passion into them. Ask first though.


I've been trying to get ahold of "Holy Macaroni" for a while. I wanted to redo the Tenchi vid he did to "So Wrong" by Stabbing Westward using only DVD footage... but I can't find anything about him online :P His vid wasn't even listed here at the org.. I had to enter his vid by Proxy (3 times.. it kept screwing up. It's still not in there right.)
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Postby Machine » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:12 am

Freako wrote:
And THAT simple feeling and motivation is why the "AMV Greats" are great. Great editors like Kevin Caldwell, DokiDoki, Aluminum, Machine, Mexican Jr., SpPanda, Fluxmeister, ErMaC, Absolute Destiny, Koop... TONS of editors out there that edit videos so they're fun to watch and you can see their vision coming out on the screen.



me thinks this list is a bit flawed.



I like that list! A POX on FREAKO!!!
Hahah, wow, my name is in the same sentence as Kevin Caldwell.

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Postby Satori » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:58 am

I'm still seeing videos with passion/emotion. I think that there has to be some degree of feeling put into a video whether it's something dramatic or as simple as just telling a story. It's there, just in varying degrees.

I did make a video once that a few people have asked me about. I was going through a bad time in my life (huge break up) and I didn't realize it was coming out in my work. That video ended up sooooo depressing without me meaning for it to. That's why it's not up for dl anymore (well plus it sucked :lol: ) I wouldn't change it, though, but I can't sit through it. I don't expect anyone else too hehe. Hey, but I think my videos reflect how I am feeling at the time of making them so that's just me.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:02 pm

I'm not sure if it's necessarily in 'recession', but let's look at what is different now as opposed to in prior years which supposedly had this passion and emotion that are in recession.
First, the community has grown exponentially. Perhaps, the quality per capita has gone down the shitter, I can't really say since I haven't downloaded probably 99.9998% of the vids on the site. But clearly the community is growing. Theres not the 'hey, there this ONE new vid out by aluminum, its really great check it out' and everyone downloads. The great new vids are potentially drowned out in the sea of mediocre ones, and so people turn to already esablished creators to find a good vid. Perhaps the wearing down of a few avatar people is what caused the illusion that the community is losing steam.
Second, the community is a few years old. It has seen what's already been done over and over and is looking for new venues. That could very well be the source of all the technical special effects videos that have been popping up. It's not less passionate editing, its just something different than what everyone is used to in amvs :\
Thirdly the actual video technics are being pushed alot more these days. That restricts some people who get bogged down in the technics and makes it easier for a good concept to get lost in a fog of murky logic and in depth technics. In a way though if the creators can master the tech aspects and come out with a great video it very well could turn out a stronger video in the end, since more was put into making it come out great.
If that makes any sense :\
I believe that's a fair outline of the changes the community has faced and when taken into consideration, an ample explanation of the source of the recession comments
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Postby Castor Troy » Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:08 pm

I cry when I hit the render button...

Because Premiere crashes when I do that.

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Postby Paul Kievits » Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:14 pm

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Postby The Wired Knight » Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:02 pm

I say yes, it's kind of like the people saying Anime is dying in japan. EVen though the number of shows coming out and the quality are both increasing. AMVs are the same, we continue to get more creators and more AMVs and in my book that means we aren't dying outl.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:12 pm

I generally just make whatever comes to my mind. It usually sucks. Myself, I'd love it if I could put more emotion into my work. But, I am very bad at expressing myself, even when I want to, so I don't genrally do a very good job of it.

People work from their own ideas. Sometimes it turns out good, other times badly. But, there will always be people creating. AMVs are like any other art form; they are a style of expression. Of what you enjoy, of what you find important, of simply what you want to say. People will always create. And, I think, as long as there are people willing to do this AMV thing, they will. If not, they won't. Simple as that.

Art is about doing what you feel like doing and hoping other people don't hate it. Whether it's AMVs or pottery, the same principle applies.
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Postby SSJVegita0609 » Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:22 pm

In my opinion, yes there is. However, it seems that emotional expression and its reactions differ from person to person. For example, this is the way some of my videos come about, I get angry, and make a somewhat senseless gore video. This is an expression of my anger, and therefore, emotional in my eyes. Some people will be like, "Yeah, that made my day." whereas others will be like "Crappyness and useless bleh". Some people see some things differently than others, its as simple as that.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:47 pm

let's not forget that 90% of everything is crap, that means that 90% of AMV's are carp, as well as 90% of the creators. So when someone says that most AMV''s are crap, as n00bish and uninformed as he may be, his is still probably right, but what should be pointed out to these people who look down on 100% of AMV's because of the crap 90% is that there are those 10% out there that are nothing shy of spectacular. And praise should be given to those who made them. :D
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Hitori » Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:54 pm

OmniStrata wrote:I make amvs to win friends and influence people ^_^
Sure..... 8)


Oh and people will like my next video... Not all that technical but it's something different.. :roll:
(Will more than likely premiere at Ushicon and be available for download next month.)
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:11 pm

CaTaClYsM wrote:90% of AMV's are carp


12169.8 carp :shock:
the buggers breed fast :D
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Re: Sick of this bad talk!

Postby EarthCurrent » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:25 pm

mexicanjunior wrote:No...because you hate the starfish. :cry:

It was a crab, damn you!!!! :roll:
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Postby Jebadia » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:33 pm

There's no recession ..."yet", just a minor laps if you can even call it that. Frankly I find no recession in the amv community as far as videos go, as for the people....I don't think enough people right now appreciate the fact that this site even exists, I sure do, without it my vids may have never been seen by the public for a long time. Without this site, though there are others similiar to this..but not that much, creaters will still have been scattered across the internet, relying on webrings and such to hopefully become somewhat well known to anyone who knows of AMV's.
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