Any 1080P AMVS?

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Postby Qyot27 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:32 pm

Eva-Fan wrote:Adding more frames to HD content would just make it harder to get good playback on PC's. I did some encoding research with 1080p of my own with x264 and found it not at all worth it. There is too many x-factors currently. There are people with computers that can't handle the video stress, there are people who use crappy video players and there are too many codec variations or different ways to watch it. Some players use external programs like FFdshow for the codecs they lack and some use their own internal ones. They decode differently when it comes to x264 cause its still in development. There is no way to determine exactly what your viewer is going to see with HD x264 content as is unless they use everything you do technically. Time just needs to pass for more x264 development and people buying more better computers before HD becomes mainstream.

That's why hardware testing would be important. As long as the video is certain to play on something like those KiSS models or one has (circumstances granted) the ability to author standard-compliant Blu-ray discs, then the source streams would be fine - as I wouldn't expect anyone to distribute an actual Blu-ray image for their video, just a file that can be popped into said authoring program. It'd really be no different than those that offered VCD-compliant MPEG1 files for download in the past.

Something at that res might not jive with computer hardware just yet, but the benefit of watching 1080p on a computer monitor is fairly moot if you go with the common consensus that 1080p is only really valuable at screen sizes above 40" or whatever it is (this is of course excluding the possibility of someone using their HDTV as a monitor).
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Postby x_rex30 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:33 pm

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x_rex30 wrote:720p and I'm good to go. No need to go out of your way to make such a huge jump from 480p all the way to 1080p. You people who are trying to do that are nuts and just trying to be the first in something. Everyone, focus on 720p for now if you want to make HD MVs.

If you do try to make hd movies, use actual hd sources and if not that, at least try to take advantage of more frames per second. If you aren't even going to try to put high frame rate to good use or hd footage, then don't bother.


Are you saying that you want people to start adding frames to the otherwise film framerate of most HD content?
I'm saying they could take advantage of it or at least use actual hd source.

Like in Auriga, it's quite unique with original effects and a high frame rate.

I would think it's more important to have hd footage just saying it would be nice to do some amv editing with more frames if you are doing something like panning frames or speeding up clips.
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Postby Brad » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:43 pm

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x_rex30 wrote:720p and I'm good to go. No need to go out of your way to make such a huge jump from 480p all the way to 1080p. You people who are trying to do that are nuts and just trying to be the first in something. Everyone, focus on 720p for now if you want to make HD MVs.

If you do try to make hd movies, use actual hd sources and if not that, at least try to take advantage of more frames per second. If you aren't even going to try to put high frame rate to good use or hd footage, then don't bother.


Are you saying that you want people to start adding frames to the otherwise film framerate of most HD content?
I'm saying they could take advantage of it or at least use actual hd source.

Like in Auriga, it's quite unique with original effects and a high frame rate.

I would think it's more important to have hd footage just saying it would be nice to do some amv editing with more frames if you are doing something like panning frames or speeding up clips.


Alright, but you do realize that the whole adding frames business is really quite a chore (unless you intend to speed up all of your clips). He had to use a special plug-in to do the frame interpolating. I've played around with the plug-in and it's not the simplest thing in the world to get the motion looking right. So, no I don't think it will or even should become "the new thing to do" as opposed to making a video in 1080p, which by comparison is much simpler and more feasible.
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Postby EvaFan » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:54 pm

Qyot27 wrote:
Eva-Fan wrote:Adding more frames to HD content would just make it harder to get good playback on PC's. I did some encoding research with 1080p of my own with x264 and found it not at all worth it. There is too many x-factors currently. There are people with computers that can't handle the video stress, there are people who use crappy video players and there are too many codec variations or different ways to watch it. Some players use external programs like FFdshow for the codecs they lack and some use their own internal ones. They decode differently when it comes to x264 cause its still in development. There is no way to determine exactly what your viewer is going to see with HD x264 content as is unless they use everything you do technically. Time just needs to pass for more x264 development and people buying more better computers before HD becomes mainstream.

That's why hardware testing would be important. As long as the video is certain to play on something like those KiSS models or one has (circumstances granted) the ability to author standard-compliant Blu-ray discs, then the source streams would be fine - as I wouldn't expect anyone to distribute an actual Blu-ray image for their video, just a file that can be popped into said authoring program. It'd really be no different than those that offered VCD-compliant MPEG1 files for download in the past.


Actually i found that the best way to get it all to work out right now was to take your final product and just run it through a transcoding program that makes video files for ps3/xbox360/DVD players that support x264/AC3 combo. This way people can watch your HD amv on HDTV's/sound systems in perfect quality. A simple program like mkv2vob (It was intentionally made for the ps3) would work. However you would have to make an mkv file out of your final product which just means rendering your video stream and audio stream separately. Then just use a program like mkvtools=>mkvmerge to combine them for your mkv. There are other transcoding programs too. Problem there is still the necessity of your own server for the file.
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Re: Any 1080P AMVS?

Postby RonnieDaking » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:49 pm

do any one know a list of animes in HD
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Re: Any 1080P AMVS?

Postby MegamanX-Zerohunter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:07 pm

man thats crazy good quality how the heck is that possible for anime let alone amv's
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Re: Any 1080P AMVS?

Postby Shui » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:24 am

Cs4 is able to directly import/edit Blue-ray Movies.
I tried it out and had no Problems occuring. :up: :up:

Future here we come !
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Re: Any 1080P AMVS?

Postby Ryvannis » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:42 pm

Done my recent AMV in 720P, downscaled it from 1080P. Not much of a difference to tell the truth.
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Re: Any 1080P AMVS?

Postby Prodigi » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:21 pm

Ryvannis wrote:Done my recent AMV in 720P, downscaled it from 1080P. Not much of a difference to tell the truth.

Ditto. Although technically the source wasn't 1080p, but rather 816p (1920x816 due to it being 2.35:1)
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