At what point is a song over done?

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At what point is a song over done?

Postby Gene Starwind 21122 » Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:42 pm

Well this is just my opinion when a song is over done is when you see the same exact anime being done to the same song more than 3 or 4 times depending on the anime series. But I still say you could use the same song that may have been used before with other animes and put to something completly different that still would work. Well what are your feelings on when a song is over used?
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Postby Deaths_ally » Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:48 pm

when there are a few versions of it for every single anime series that exists (ie. mortal kombat theme).

that's my opion anyway...
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Postby the Black Monarch » Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:45 am

A good song is never overdone.

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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby Beowulf » Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:12 am

Gene Starwind 21122 wrote:Well this is just my opinion when a song is over done is when you see the same exact anime being done to the same song more than 3 or 4 times depending on the anime series. But I still say you could use the same song that may have been used before with other animes and put to something completly different that still would work. Well what are your feelings on when a song is over used?


As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.

Nine Inch Nails - The Becoming
Deep Purple - Speed King
Weezer - Only In Dreams
Ultraspank - Where
Muse - Execution Commentary
Kid Rock - Cowboy
Seether - Fine Again
Darwin's Waiting Room - Another Way
MSI - Bitches

etc. etc.
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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby Rozard » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:08 pm

Beowulf wrote:
Gene Starwind 21122 wrote:Well this is just my opinion when a song is over done is when you see the same exact anime being done to the same song more than 3 or 4 times depending on the anime series. But I still say you could use the same song that may have been used before with other animes and put to something completly different that still would work. Well what are your feelings on when a song is over used?


As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.


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Postby Beowulf » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:29 pm

Eminem - Criminal
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Postby Rozard » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:36 pm

fuckin rawk

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Postby The Wired Knight » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:57 pm

When the song has been used at least twenty consecutive times to the same anime (especially if it uses the same concept and footage in the same place across the videos) and often is poorly done. Then it is overdone.
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Postby Deaths_ally » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:11 pm

The Wired Knight wrote:When the song has been used at least twenty consecutive times to the same anime (especially if it uses the same concept and footage in the same place across the videos) and often is poorly done. Then it is overdone.


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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby Paul Kievits » Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:16 am

Beowulf wrote:As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.


You are sooooooo right ... I agree 100%

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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby BishounenStalker » Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:42 pm

Beowulf wrote:As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.


I wouldn't totally agree here. I'd say it's off limits for that particular anime. But the song could definitely be used for another anime if it's fitting.

Example:

Brad Demoss' famous Eva video to the Phantom Menace trailer. From that vid, this song/anime combination IS off-limits. But that doesn't mean someone couldn't do a video of....say....Trigun to the Phantom Menace trailer (which also fits frighteningly well) and do it extremely well.
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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:27 pm

[quote="Beowulf]As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.
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I disagree, what qualifies as a "really good" video differs from one person to the next, so that alone is a discrepancy. But what if someone wants to use a different anime? Or if two people have the same taste in music. Even sometimes the same anime can be used two different ways to the same song and both come out as a good video.
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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby Beowulf » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:14 pm

The Wired Knight wrote:
I disagree, what qualifies as a "really good" video differs from one person to the next, so that alone is a discrepancy. But what if someone wants to use a different anime? Or if two people have the same taste in music. Even sometimes the same anime can be used two different ways to the same song and both come out as a good video.


The only person to use "The Becomming" has been shane. Thats because, to this date, there really isnt a better concept for that song. It is THE definitive video with that song. No one elsle can do another one. I'll just think of Shane's when I hear the song.
I think the same rule goes for obscure songs like The Deluxe War Baby by the Burning Airlines. No one had even heard this song before Kwasek's video came out. Its an awesome video, and the perfect concept for the song, and now nobody can use it. Its been done already. Seriously what the hell could you do with that song besides Trigun? Its not like someone had an idea for that song and Kwasek just happend to do a different one. You saw Kwasek's video, said "omg I love this song", and decided to make a video to it. Thats not original at all.

And then there are exceptions. Closer by Nine Inch Nails has been used way to many times but alot of good videos have been made with it. Its an easy song to apply to anime as it can be all metaphor or hawt shinji man sex or eating robot pussy or whatever. Another exception would be using the song in a parody or comedy situation. One of my ideas that I plan on doing one day is a spoof on all the incredibly serious Closer videos using Closer with Sailor Moon. I think that would be ok since the concept is on the complete other end of the spectrom. Another example would be your song has been used but in a terrible way. You have to jusdge the circumstances. Example: I go to look on the org to see if my song has been taken. I see that it has. I click the link and see an 8 megabyte real media file by a completely unknown person saying "this is my first video and I thought it came out really really cooo and i really like it and i think its great blah blah blah blah". I close the window and don't even consider the song used. Call me jaded but thats the way it is most of the time. If you see a new video on the org, chances are it is horrible. If some unknown person comes out with an awesome video people almost always go into shock and celebration. Spectacular Anime for example. That video was the talk of the virtual town for about a month. But if you see a video by someone you've never heard of before, chances are its terrible and the song is still fair game.

But when I say "really good video" I mean "THE Definitive Video". It doesn't have to be good, in fact your personal oppinion is irrelevent. It just has to be well known and popular. Your judgement of how popular a video is, has a direct relation with how close your finger is to the pulse of the video sub culture. If you poke your head in once a week or so, you will have a much less accurate sense than someone who spends 5-8 hours a day on the org.

I think the videos I listed are off limits either that the definitive video has been made with them or it uses an obscure song.
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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby dokool » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:41 pm

Beowulf wrote:As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.

Seether - Fine Again




How would you know if a good video has been done with this song? I haven't listed mine yet =)

Seriously, though, are you listing songs that are still good to do, or songs that have already been done? There's only been one Fine Again vid...

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Re: At what point is a song over done?

Postby Beowulf » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:44 pm

dokool wrote:
Beowulf wrote:As soon as someone makes a really good video with a song, the song is instantly off limits for anyone else.

Seether - Fine Again




How would you know if a good video has been done with this song? I haven't listed mine yet =)

Seriously, though, are you listing songs that are still good to do, or songs that have already been done? There's only been one Fine Again vid...

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