Ek leaving... and maybe me too

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False dream...

Postby OmniStrata » Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:18 am

I don't know about you, but I really WOULDN'T mind recieving 400+ perfect 10 opinions with nothing there. The chance for that is sitting in "impossible's" lap...

With them gone, I guess competition may ease up a bit. If you step back, that's fine. That leaves the lesser heard editors to step up and shine for a bit. Heck, I intended my "retirement" video dedicated to newbs!!

^_^

Well, enjoy life and make amvs people! :D
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Re: False dream...

Postby MaboroshiStudio » Sun Jun 30, 2002 12:02 pm

OmniStrata wrote:I don't know about you, but I really WOULDN'T mind recieving 400+ perfect 10 opinions with nothing there. The chance for that is sitting in "impossible's" lap...

With them gone, I guess competition may ease up a bit. If you step back, that's fine. That leaves the lesser heard editors to step up and shine for a bit. Heck, I intended my "retirement" video dedicated to newbs!!

^_^

Well, enjoy life and make amvs people! :D


hahah! I have had somewhat of a forced retirement this year... the computer I had built never worked, but Pat did his best and finally fixed it. Then in shippment to me UPS killed it so the year is pretty much a wash for me, but I do hope to have something for AWA. SUCK :x

As far as other cons I have been very selective in entering stuff that has won since I would like other music video creators to have their day in the sun as well...
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Postby Machine » Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:35 pm

HAhahah, easy there Mag Launcher, we love or hate Sammy despite his Australian ways hahahah.


But on a more serious note.

Punistation, like Mag Launcher said, I'm not an elitist at all about this, more of a realist. I'll speak from expereience as well if you want...

When MJ, Adiamante, and I were at Akon and watching the Music Videos for the contest, there were maybe only 5 videos out of the whole 40 enteries that actually caught my eye and I coudl say that those people put effort into what they were doing and got a message across. But that's something we aren't seeing anymore at CON's


If you ever leave Australia, try going to a CON and you will see what I'm talkign about. ONly a couple of videos will catch your eye while others will not.

I only speak from my point of view as far as this last year goes.



And yes let's not forget Hakura with her Eden Video. She's got a talent for art :lol:
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Postby Wonka » Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:46 pm

Machine wrote:When MJ, Adiamante, and I were at Akon and watching the Music Videos for the contest, there were maybe only 5 videos out of the whole 40 enteries that actually caught my eye and I coudl say that those people put effort into what they were doing and got a message across.


39 with sound, 1 without.......:(
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another newbies 2 cents

Postby Otaku13 » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:24 pm

:roll: I started working on my first amv almost a year ago. it took me over 4 months, with learning the programs, aquiring footage, editing using a prgram with limited capabilities (iMovie). it was hard. A few times I thought about giving up, because i wanted the hard drive space for fansubs. but I didnt. and you know why? because I had seen the possibilities that this hobby holds through creators like kusoyaro, maboroshi, kevin caldwell, EK, and many others. I looked at thier work, and I said someday, I will do something like this. it may not be this project, and it may not be in my next ten projects, but I will do it. And it would never have happened for me were it not for this site. So, thanks phade, and thanks ek,and thanks newbies, and thanks to all the people who do use the review process to its fullest, because you are all what makes this site a positive experiance. Its so easy to dwell on the negitive aspects of the site because thats human nature, but everyone, try to remember what brings us all here, ne?
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Postby Machine » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:29 pm

Wonka:

Yeah man, we all felt so bad for what had happen. I'll cry with you :oops:



Otaku13:
Everyone goes through that at least once. But there are several people here at the org that take all those poeple for granet and see them as nothing while some of us....

Well they were the whole reason we started. :wink:
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Postby Laughing_Man » Sun Jun 30, 2002 3:24 pm

THOSE PEOPLE ROCK ME IN MY MOST PRIVATE OF PLACES!!!!!!
Theres my contribution to this thread, and wether or not anyone leaves, I'll continue to get the latest from my favorite creators. Even though the org makes this all easier, but the fact remains that noone will keep me from my favorite videos!!
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Postby DiemondDagger » Sun Jun 30, 2002 3:28 pm

I miss not being able to read EK's journal entries :cry:
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yeah, ek has good music

Postby Otaku13 » Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:02 pm

yeah! she always links to some cool tunes in her journal pots, I think hers was the only journal i looked forward to catching the next post in
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Postby Khandreia » Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:06 pm

I know no one here even knows who I am, and probably doesn't care either, but goodness...stuff like this makes me wonder why I'm even trying to make an attempt to get involved in this community. I've been making AMV's since around September, and while I'm certainly no "pro" (I'm still stuck with that uber-crappy Windows Movie Maker until I can afford something better) compared to some of you people, I can't believe the elitism and blatant favoritism that takes place here. As a long-standing and somewhat well-known member of the Gundam community, some of you AMV elitists make the hardcore Universal Century elitists I see so often there look like little kids crying because they spilled their milk, and they can usually be really nasty too.

So yeah, like I said, I'm a Gundam fan, especially of the underappreciated Gundam X series. That's practically instant damnation for me in this community. In other words, no one here could probably give a flying frack about my very existence, but on the other hand, people in the Gundam community love what I do, and not just because they know about the anime I'm using either. With that in mind, I don't think that gives someone who's not educated on the anime featured in someone's video the right to say whether or not it's "art" simply because they know little to nothing about it or the reasons behind someone making the video they're watching. That's horribly shallow. Like I said, I'm no pro, and my methods are kinda crude, but to shun people just because they use a certain method or anime? Gods, that's pathetic. Sure, I realize that there are some really crappy videos out there that should have never seen the light of day, but by shunning these people, how will you ever know if these people could eventually improve and become a skilled creator?

Think of me as a whiny, egotistical, hypocritical bitch if you will from just this first post of mine (goodness knows I've heard it before whenever I speak my mind), but I'm only speaking what I feel after my many months of lurking, learning, and observing on the old boards. If someone chooses to leave a community because they're sick of the bickering and/or elitism, it's their choice, and judging by the way some people here are, they're probably a better person for it too. If I were well-known here, I'd probably want to leave too.

Who gets the most reviews and the highest ratings doesn't always determine who's the best creator; it usually seems to determine who makes the more popular video. I'm perfectly content having few to no reviews for my videos; I'd rather just have people see them and appreciate them for what they are. If they like them and wish to tell me in one way or another, that's fine. More power to them. But I refuse to sell out by using overused anime/music/concepts just to gain popularity; I'd rather start a trend than follow one. I'm not in this for the contests (after all, how many contests even allow WMV-format videos anyway?) or the recognition, I'm in this for the love of the anime and the music I'm using, and I'll use whatever I can scrounge up to realize my visions, regardless of the quality of the source or whatever flak I'd get for using certain sources. Given the way this community is, I think that concept has been lost on a lot of people here.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm just going to disappear back into the shadows known as the Gundam fandom until I feel it necessary to make my presence known here again...
~Jamil no Miko & Local Gundam X Enthusiast~
Oh, I'm a Gundam fan and I'm okay...I work all night and sleep all day...

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Postby OrionPro001 » Sun Jun 30, 2002 6:11 pm

^_^

I love you man!!

Come back into the light!!

You shine!!
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sun Jun 30, 2002 7:05 pm

I didn't mean that amvs were just invented. I meant that they have just become so popular. To whoever "doesn't like" me, I think that's a kind of premature decision to make since you don't even know me. And yeah I was too harsh. Sorry. I hadn't slept in like two days and was extremely frustrated with this community. I just recently decided to start participating in the forums and instead of finding people having fun and making jokes I find arguments and people who can't take jokes. I still think it's stupid to try to argue that the majority of the amv making world doesn't suck.
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sun Jun 30, 2002 7:07 pm

Machine wrote:When MJ, Adiamante, and I were at Akon and watching the Music Videos for the contest, there were maybe only 5 videos out of the whole 40 enteries that actually caught my eye and I coudl say that those people put effort into what they were doing and got a message across.


Was one of those videos mine? :D
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Postby DiemondDagger » Sun Jun 30, 2002 7:09 pm

People argue when they do not fully understand.
And although a-m-v.org has it's fair share of arguments it also has a lot of fun times.
a-m-v.org has to be one of the most talked about places on the net. I even slide into small angelfire forums sometimes and hear all this jabber about artists like EK or Carlos. And yes even you MJ ^_^.

I think that a-m-v.org has really made a positive effect on the Anime community in general and although we do have fights and some upsets (like EK and Kevin) but we still hold are on as one of the nets most positive Anime stations.
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Postby OrionPro001 » Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:54 pm

I actually met one person who thinks that those who makes AMV's are only makin' them because they completely have a distain and a hate for anime in general, and want to express it to all by "defacing and degrading" anime. :x

I left him on his ass after one hit. :lol:
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