Flashes : what do you use?

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Flashes : what do you use?

Postby Wyverex » Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:56 pm

I'm looking for an alternative to white frames flashes. I tried making the scene brighter using brightness/contrast settings and keyframing it but the effect looks "cheap".

So here's my question : what do you use when you have to put a flash somewhere? Just a couple of white frames as everybody do?

I managed to get a flash that fades out like a wave using Photoshop gradients but I can't use it for all my flashes (the effect's too long).
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Postby Hitori » Sat Nov 23, 2002 6:13 pm

Just export an all white image that fits your composition size(usually about 720x480 in size). You can use that as a fade. (and work with the rubberbands to fade out as fast or as slow as you want the fade)
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Postby Wyverex » Sat Nov 23, 2002 6:18 pm

Yes I know... I'm looking for some other way to get a flash. Don't tell me everyone do it that way...
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Postby Hitori » Sat Nov 23, 2002 6:43 pm

Well, that's the typical way of doing them... I haven't worked any other way... (May have to experiment with different flash techniques)
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Postby Zarxrax » Sat Nov 23, 2002 6:59 pm

You could try flashing a different clip there, or a color besides white. Or you could try something entirely different than a flash. Perhaps some sort of transition effect like a disolve or something.
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Postby RichLather » Sat Nov 23, 2002 8:35 pm

Instead of going a cuts-only white flash (which is what we use at the station where I work--4 frames' worth works nicely) I've experimented with a cut-dissolve sort of thing...

If I can describe it as I see it, it deals with inserting an all-white keyframe, then doing a 10-frame dissolve back to the next video scene. It's very fast, and has a bit more class than just simple cuts.
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Postby silver_moon » Sun Nov 24, 2002 12:29 am

You could try lens flares... maybe if there is more than one beat you want to accent, try doing a lens flare in one part of the picture on the first beat then a second flare on a different part of the pic on the second one and so on.

Or you could try flipping between two different clips rapidly, so instead of using a still white frame for flashes use a clip.
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Postby Eek-1 » Sun Nov 24, 2002 12:50 am

I usually use white. But to make variety I added some fx on before and after, e.g. in my shoot-em'-up video:
colorized (blue) interlaced -> cut to white (1 frame) -> quick fade to full color.
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Postby OmniStrata » Sun Nov 24, 2002 1:01 am

I'm appalled at this...

White flash fades?

^_^

j/k...

I ALWAYS use this technique... [for the Premiere specialists, I HIGHLY suggest you do it too...]

I won't say outright as to spoil it but here's a hint at those cool white frame flashes I do for my videos...

Go to the effects bar and key frame the "Level" Adjust effect. Not just blue/green/red. Just do them all together. For the fade on track one [I do it sometimes for viewing convenience] just set the output for one at 255 and the other keyframe at 0...

Easy eh?
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Postby Fluxmeister » Sun Nov 24, 2002 3:27 am

Hmmm, for all my flashes I use a 'white color matte' (new -> color matte) combined with an additive dissolve transition set at 50%(if transititioning white -> clip) So you don't actually have a solid white for so long. The length varies depending on the beat etc that I am matching.

There is one thing I truly dislike with a passion in music videos. Solid white frames being used to sync beats over clips... This simply looks stupid to me. On a fast beat, such as a drumroll or otherwise, I am more accepting to it (seeing as I have used black frames to flash during a sequence...) ... but for some reason the solid white frames (or multiple frames) just 'appearing' on the screen to match a beat can really kill videos for me.
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Postby Wyverex » Sun Nov 24, 2002 6:47 am

First let me clear something out : there's no difference between fading out a white frame using the red rubberbands or a dissolve transition.

2) Here's a 5s clip showing the flashes I have to put almost all long the video. I'll keep the second one (the flash which fades out like a wave) but I want to make something else for the first one (which is just a faded white frame) -- done, see #6.

3) I can't use clips instead of flashes because it's already done further in the vid but it needs something more (a flash).

4) Don't tell me about red or green frame flashes :lol:.

5) Thanks for the lens flare idea. Doesn't really fit the first flash I want to change but I used it for another part of my AMV.

6) Thanks a lot to OmniStrata ^_^. The level effect set to 0->255 over three frames looks quite like a white frame fading out but with a little something more... I'll use that.

7) Here's a part of my vid using both white frame and level flashes. The first serie of flashes uses white frames and the second one level effect. Tell me which you prefer.
I like level flashes more because a white frame is already used for the lady-in-the-red-ball clip (I can't use level effect there because I made the scene black&white).
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Postby bloodyfang » Sun Nov 24, 2002 11:02 am

i've seen red, blue and black frame flashes. all of them looked pretty good. but it all depends on the video idea. and i still need to learn how to use rubberbands. :oops:
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Postby Wyverex » Sun Nov 24, 2002 11:14 am

Sure, there's absolutely no rules in AMV making but a colored flash really wouldn't fit my vid at all ^_^.

I think I'll go on with OmniStrata's idea.
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Postby Fluxmeister » Sun Nov 24, 2002 1:47 pm

Wyverex wrote:First let me clear something out : there's no difference between fading out a white frame using the red rubberbands or a dissolve transition.


Uhm, I'd agree with you if you said cross dissolve ... but the additive dissolve transition (that I mentioned) actually works differently... especially in scenes with lots of contrasting bright and dark sections. Such as in my Fate video, where the candles sitting next to Dilandau in one of the flashes appear much much brighter than they would from your average cross dissolve/rubberband transition.

At least try it so you see what it's like. It does produce a different effect than the rubberbands. 8)
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Postby Wyverex » Sun Nov 24, 2002 2:19 pm

Indeed, looks like more the level effect mentionned by Omni (which is way easier to use).
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