i was banned for an unjust cause

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i was banned for an unjust cause

Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:45 am

Greetings fans, this is your humble creator akira.

i was banned from a-m-v.org because i borrowed some footage from another anime video, and footage only it was, i used a compleatly different song and even re-sequenced the footage i "borrowd" which the other artist doesnt even own.

im more then happy to show you both videos, my MSN is akirahz@hotmail.com

feel free to add me to your MSN and ask me anything, ill clear this up .. and the admin of AMV will find it futile to bann me as i have over 200 IPS in my arsenal.

this is pure and utter bull shit. and i plan to watch the person who thought he was clever in "identifying" some scenes from a certain video i took.

later.

-akira

P.S. Cant keep a good man down.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:50 am

I can't speak for everyone, but I think your alone on this one.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:55 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:I can't speak for everyone, but I think your alone on this one.


well i would expect nothing less, but i didnt even recieve an email informing me that i was banned? the admin didnt email, just some kid emailed me telling me he was going to rat and he sounded very pleased about it as well, im sure he wrote up some good shit to the admin too make me look as bad as he could. Jealous i suppose, the video i created with the other artists footage surpassed his, that is plain and clear to see.. jealousy can be an evil thing i suppose.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:58 am

well if that is the case, don't rip other peoples vids anymore, under any circumstances, ever, at all.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:01 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:well if that is the case, don't rip other peoples vids anymore, under any circumstances, ever, at all.


you are definatly right about that one, but it doesnt do me much good now.. but i doubt ill ever borrow footage again from this experience, but alot of good it does me now hah, i didnt really know it was a crime either, espeically when the music is NOTHING like in this vid, and the scenes are compleatly re-organized and edited too my sutiing "this includes clip speed as well"

i dont understand it, maybe this person had something against me? oh well, im in the hole now and wont be getting out, i like phade and planned on pledging with every one esle when the time came but now it looks like this is 1 artist who is out for the count haha, someone count to 10. TKO.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:12 am

well I hope all turns out for the best, whatever that may be.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:16 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:well I hope all turns out for the best, whatever that may be.


yea, the first step was deleting that video, it paind me to do it, but it is also removed from my server.. i will re-create the mvid with the dvds and my player, if i have to rip the clips myself to make it my own then i will.

but as for being on a-m-v.org i doubt ill be unbanned, so it looks like im stuck with kazaa sharing and what not.. im sure as soon as phade or some other admin sees me posting here this ip im on now will be banned again.
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i guess i could

Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 7:08 am

i guess i could surrender my opinion on the video being different and create an apology video, but the main thing is i just dont want to cause any more rukus or upset any one, i dont like upsetting people. Im not really that popular of an amv maker any way, i dont hardly have any opinions at all and not very many downloads on my videos.

i suppose that is why i took the video off the server, so the ones with the opinions against mine can rest at ease knowing theyve haulted my supposid accused amv fraud.

i would make that apology video i suppose if it gaind me welcomed access to this site again , but if not.. i wont battle against those who do not wish me around or in their presense.. i will hide under a rock as they wish.
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Postby turboneko » Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:19 am

Just out of curiosity.... if you have been banned, how comes you can post in the forum? :P

I can also see your member page... are you sure that there is not another reason why you can't possibly log in to your account? I've heard someone else with your same problem I think...

I don't think Phade would ban someone so easily (it took months to ban Sammy at the time :P)
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hehe simple

Postby akirahhz » Fri Nov 15, 2002 9:33 am

simple, i can change my ip, i can do many things *pets his unix box* ... also the ip i was using wont even go to animemusicvideos.org .. just says it doesnt exist and its down, but the site works fine on this one, and a few others ive tested..
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huh?

Postby Quu » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:49 am

um.... the fact that AMVORG is down and does not exist does not mean you were banned, it means that your DNS server is having issues... or your routing is wierd. If you were banned you would be able to resolve the host name, but when connecting the web server would tell you that you do not have authorization or some other message like that

sounds like somethign on your end is the problem... maybe your network admin cut you off?

and if you are as good with a unix box as you claim... then you should know that...

Phade does not ban people on a whim... and very rarely even when justified. I think there was a problem on your end... or even that there was not a problem and you are trying to get attention.
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Postby Phade » Fri Nov 15, 2002 11:51 am

Hey akirahhz,

I don't know who you are but nobody gets banned for using someone else's video footage. That's just dumb.

The only person I banned by IP was someone who use some sorta "download accelerator" to download my Material Girl video off the server several hundred times at the same time. This made the site bandwidth useage skyrocket, needless to say. I figured that if this person is dumb enough to use a "download accelerator" like this with my video, other people are going to have a similar bandwidth useage problem with thier videos when this person finds them. So, the best thing to do to save them was to ban the IP address so that they could not find videos using this site.

Now if this person was you, you very much deserved to be banned. It's hard enough to find decent hosting as it is, but if someone wastes valuable bandwidth like that, they don't deserve to be downloading videos. (This over-useage of bandwidth is one of the technical details I'm trying to overcome with the Donut. If anyone knows of a way to detect the use of "download accelerators", please contact me.)

But as for the notion that someone would be banned for using other people's video footage, that is just silly. Heck, I know of a few Ranma videos that use my Material Girl video footage in them (I know because of the lip syncing adjustments I made to the footage to get it to sorta match the music better).

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Re: i was banned for an unjust cause

Postby Nappy » Fri Nov 15, 2002 2:55 pm

akirahhz wrote: i used a compleatly different song and even re-sequenced the footage


You obviously didn't rework it to well if someone can Identify it.
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Re: i was banned for an unjust cause

Postby SpPANDA » Fri Nov 15, 2002 3:19 pm

Nappy wrote:
akirahhz wrote: i used a compleatly different song and even re-sequenced the footage


You obviously didn't rework it to well if someone can Identify it.


hear hear
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Postby priuscomet » Fri Nov 15, 2002 3:35 pm

lol! that's funny, the kid was dumb enough to get caught. bah! there's so many vids using footage from other amv's why the hell are you the only one banned? o_0 you sure they weren't shiting you whoever told you that you were banned?

anyway...::scratches head:: me looks at it like this. using another amv as source footage is like using anime as source footage. wait a minute! O_O we all do that! whoa...quite frankly, i'd like to see more amv's where editors use their own made footage instead of footage derived from anime. or more vids using their own music. but that's not gonna happen anytime soon will it? cuz ppl are lazy or they don't know how and i'm one of them like the every one of you. o_0 so tell me why its wrong to use someone else's amv as a source footage (as long as you don't copy the clip sync and effects that is)...


you know, i think i've seen one of your vids. can't remember which one tho.
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