What if a song can only be got by downloading?

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What if a song can only be got by downloading?

Postby the4thmooncat » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:16 pm

I noticed while signing up that videos can not use downloaded music. What if the song can only be obtained *by* downloading (like these)?
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Postby rubyeye » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:21 pm

There's no rule against using downloaded music. Extracting an MP3 into a WAV for editing and then re-compressing with your video will just yield a lower quality audio. I know there are some artists who only release their albums online.
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Postby madbunny » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:21 pm

Then just get the highest quality version you can. Bakadeshi used one in his Angels Redemption video. I believe that he was able to contact the creator and get a high quality version too.

Angels redemption I'm sure there are other videos that also use OC remix stuff.
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Postby devilmaykickass » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:46 pm

If you know what you're doing you can recompress audio without it even being noticable at all.
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Re: What if a song can only be got by downloading?

Postby kthulhu » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:48 pm

the4thmooncat wrote:I noticed while signing up that videos can not use downloaded music. What if the song can only be obtained *by* downloading (like these)?


You're out of luck, actually. Phade will delete your account, contact your ISP, and leave negative feedback for any videos you've made.

He's done it before, sometimes for no good reason.

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Postby imphill » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:05 am

Is it just me or is this AMVing thing getting to be quite expensive.
- No software you didn't accuire via P2P
- No using other peoples AMV
- No using downloaded music
- No anime you didn't from a DVD you own
??
Oh come on. Give a rest. Does it REALLY matter how or why we got the anime/music/software? Just as long we give a good vid, it shouldn't matter...

Has Phade got somethink against P2P and bittorent?
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Postby arzuro » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:49 am

It's not like anyone would be able to tell, let alone prove anything, or even care.
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Postby Keeper of Hellfire » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:59 am

imphill wrote:Does it REALLY matter how or why we got the anime/music/software? Just as long we give a good vid, it shouldn't matter...

Yes it does. AMV's are in a legal gray area, our only excuse is fair use. Using pirated footage programs makes them definatly illegal.

imphill wrote:Is it just me or is this AMVing thing getting to be quite expensive.

The way you propose can get more expensive than you think. The MPAA has accused a 67 year old man to pay 600,000$ because his 13 year old grandson has downloaded 4(!) movies over a p2p network, using his computer. The MPAA's first offer was 4,000$, but the old man refused because he wasn't able to pay.

Think how much DVD's you can by for this. If you look for special offers, it isn't that expensive. ANd as far it goes for the editing program, get an older version of it.
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Postby imphill » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:32 am

arzuro wrote:It's not like anyone would be able to tell, let alone prove anything, or even care.


Well obsvoiusly these people care.
But yeah you'll have a tough time proving it.

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Postby arzuro » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:45 am

Nah, all I know is that if the officials want this site to exist they absolutely must at least pretend they care, whether or not they actually do is another question entirely. It's just like how cans of spraypaint usually say something like "Use for art, not vandalism.". Sometimes you just have to be a big phony.
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Postby Vancore » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:46 am

imphill wrote:Phade, still hasn't answered...


He rarely does, he most likely won't. One of the Mods might when they log on.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:14 am

arzuro wrote:It's not like anyone would be able to tell, let alone prove anything, or even care.


Sometimes its easy to prove, with people who leave watermarks, logos and the subtitles in their videos. but thats VIDEO and not AUDIO..

actually someone called the audio on my latest "highly bitrated" (which to me insinuates that I used Downloaded music)... but it was actually CD Quality (I got it off of the CD)... I guess the people who made My Chemical Romance's CDs didnt give a crap about quality... and YES I listened to it on the CD it sounds the same...

if your download is legal though, theres no problem with it. and with Audio there is no REAL way to prove it. With Video (like I said) thats alot easier to prove.
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Postby arzuro » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:21 am

Any watermark that isn't obvious would easily be removed, and all the others, well, who would actually go and look for them. Anyway, as I understand it, this thread is not about copying from other amv's but much rather from licenced animations.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:32 am

arzuro wrote:Any watermark that isn't obvious would easily be removed, and all the others, well, who would actually go and look for them. Anyway, as I understand it, this thread is not about copying from other amv's but much rather from licenced animations.


no this thread is about downloading music
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Postby arzuro » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:35 am

Oh right, that was that other thread. Even so, the thread became more general after some posts and my argument remains valid.
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