A newbie's thought's on anime music videos in general

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Postby arzuro » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:58 pm

I have created epics in my head that would easily fill 10.000 pages if every written down, always been a dreamer me. The point is, making music videos in your head is not work, it's just the very first step of creating something. If you pass away and never express the idea you've had, it will fade with you and it will never have been
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Postby jubjub2 » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:07 pm

That's probably why when editing family movies I tend to veer towards the Johnny Cash. :lol:

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I'm enjoying this thread, btw. We need more of these.
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Postby arzuro » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:13 pm

I could start one about how otakus never get laid, but it would probably prove less interesting, or at least productive. Seriously, I feel like I'm having a good discussion here. One interesting question - all though it does have bit of a hen or egg character (even though the hen obviously came first) - is whether people who are searching for a way to express their thoughts turn to amv because of obvious benefits (a pretty supportive community, the possibility of starting small, only altering a few aspects of the original, and working with things one likes anyway) or people just start messing with amv's and discover something that encourages them to be creative. What do you think?
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Postby arzuro » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:14 pm

This is something that, I will admit openly, I have no idea about.
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Postby staces » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:27 pm

arzuro wrote:I could start one about how otakus never get laid, but it would probably prove less interesting, or at least productive. Seriously, I feel like I'm having a good discussion here. One interesting question - all though it does have bit of a hen or egg character (even though the hen obviously came first) - is whether people who are searching for a way to express their thoughts turn to amv because of obvious benefits (a pretty supportive community, the possibility of starting small, only altering a few aspects of the original, and working with things one likes anyway) or people just start messing with amv's and discover something that encourages them to be creative. What do you think?


Personally, back before I used to know what AMVs were, I'd hear songs and in my head it'd click with an anime (or book, movie, situation in RL) and I'd sort of make a movie in my head (like how writers of fanfiction sometimes make songfics. . . which are the bane of my reading existence, but it's the same principle).

When I found out what AMVs were, totally by accident, I learned that it wasn't a farfetched or impossible idea to make the song + anime combinations a reality.

The reason that I make AMVs, isnt' because I really get creative satisfaction out of it, or because I really give a rip about the community. I do it because combinations get stuck in my head and AMVs is often the only way to get them out. It's purging.[/b]
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Postby arzuro » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:28 pm

That right there is what I meant when I said some people have ideas that must get out of their heads.
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Postby Vancore » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:22 am

arzuro wrote:I could start one about how otakus never get laid, but it would probably prove less interesting, or at least productive. Seriously, I feel like I'm having a good discussion here. One interesting question - all though it does have bit of a hen or egg character (even though the hen obviously came first) - is whether people who are searching for a way to express their thoughts turn to amv because of obvious benefits (a pretty supportive community, the possibility of starting small, only altering a few aspects of the original, and working with things one likes anyway) or people just start messing with amv's and discover something that encourages them to be creative. What do you think?


Are you asking why people started making AMV's in the first place? There has been a thread about this topic... but, in general making amv's is a pretty easy way of expressing oneself. The anime and the music may not be yours but the editing of the two is and just having that one token item (The editing part) is usually enough to satisfy ones need to express themselves. Whether they choose to show that or not also depends on many factors ("I love my vision, but nobody else will understand it so I will keep it for myself", "I Love my vision, and I think others may like it as well so I will let others watch it", "I Hate my vision, but I think others might enjoy it if only for the comedy value it entails so I will release it" etc etc etc) Lotsa factors...

Making AMV's is a great benefit whatever the reason one does it for, because it is a more personal thing. You have nobody over your shoulder telling you how to edit your vision, or display it to whatever song your doing it to. Then again you only have so many tools to work with to display that stuff that you want to create. And again, most of those tools come from other people's work, not yours.

Music Video's on the other hand have to deal with the constraints of the Production crew, the dancers, the other musicians that help them create the music they heard in their head, the production budget, and so on. Each of these factors could change the original idea or warp it into something else that becomes acceptable to the person that wants to make it in the first place. In many ways the freedom to create that specific MV that you had in your head is robbed by these different varients.

AMVer's are bound by the limits of what they have, those that make Music Videos are bound by those that help create ones vision. And vice-versa.

The biggest difference right now between the two forms (Besides one being anime and the other Non-anime) is that AMV's tend to be more synching based and MV's tend to... well, not be synched well at all. From the way you talk you seem to like the latter then the former in the stuff you watch. You will find stuff like that in some of the AMV's on this site but they don't tend to be the most popular here since you can find that stuff on TV... This is probably not the best way to explain it, but I'm tired and need to get some sleep.

(Oh, and I'd ignore Kthulhu, I don't think those posts will be here long. Although he does remind me of a funny "The Daily Show" skit right now...)
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Postby requiett » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:00 am

arzuro wrote:One interesting question - all though it does have bit of a hen or egg character (even though the hen obviously came first) - is whether people who are searching for a way to express their thoughts turn to amv because of obvious benefits (a pretty supportive community, the possibility of starting small, only altering a few aspects of the original, and working with things one likes anyway) or people just start messing with amv's and discover something that encourages them to be creative. What do you think?


I think you need to quit worrying about what other people think.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:48 am

I saw Star Trek Fanvids way before I ever thought of AMVs... but this would be why my video selection isnt limited to anime.. I hope to branch out even more.
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Postby imphill » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:10 pm

NB:i didn't read the whole topic, WAY too boring.
arzuro, man.

come on,
point 1: AMV is a hobby thing. Dont take too seriously.

point 2: yes some are random but some are real masterclasses, and some are tear jerkers; you just got to find the type YOU like.

Point 3: You reallise mosyt of the poeple who make AMvs here are 14,15,16 yo? Please stop provoking the kids.

Question:arzuro, Your posts are quite well formed and V.well done so just how old are you?
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Postby Otohiko » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:19 pm

imphill wrote:Point 3: You reallise mosyt of the poeple who make AMvs here are 14,15,16 yo? Please stop provoking the kids.


Tip of hat. Very valid point, as much as some of the "hard core" here might resent that. :roll:
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Postby arzuro » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:22 pm

I don't see how it's relevant, but I'm 19.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:23 pm

Otohiko wrote:
imphill wrote:Point 3: You reallise mosyt of the poeple who make AMvs here are 14,15,16 yo? Please stop provoking the kids.


Tip of hat. Very valid point, as much as some of the "hard core" here might resent that. :roll:


LOL... I look like I am 17 does that count?
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:25 pm

because teenagers are angsty... and its like poking an already angry cat with a stick o.0

most of the editorers here MAY be younger but there are still some of us older people around that arent so angsty..
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Postby Otohiko » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:25 pm

arzuro wrote:I don't see how it's relevant, but I'm 19.


Yea, I could spell perfectly fine when I was 13, too.

On the other hand, age does have a bit of a role to play - there was a good forum I once simply quit because it was populated by 40-year-olds who were simply far more 'educated' by their life experience than I ever was, so I really couldn't hope to be on the same field with them, so to say.

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Interesting thought: most of my favorite AMVs were made by people around my age or older (although there's plenty of exceptions to that) :roll:

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