Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

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Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

Postby Arcane Azmadi » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:21 am

We make pretty good AMVs, if we do say so ourselves, but we're having trouble convincing people to watch them. Our latest piece, Ama Lamia, is probably our best work yet, but so far we've only garnered 20 downloads and 1 op (and that's from an acquaintance). Our other recent work, Shuji & Chise- Eternal Love (Two Hearts mix), took the Manifest Award at Manifest 2005 and is a massively improved remake of our most popular AMV, but has only collected 64 downloads. To put it simply, this bothers us.

So to be plain, how can we promote ourselves more effectively? We're still a relatively unknown group, plus we're Australians so we can't show our work at big American cons, so we have to do it the hard way and aren't having much success. Does anyone have any tips?
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Postby genestarwind21122 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:40 am

I would say that you can post your video when it is released in AMV Annoucments, and if you want more feedback you can always do op exchanges.
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Postby bum » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:49 am

Pro pimping is an art which I'm not too keenon explaining and helping people with. Its about alot of little things you do starting from the second the vid starts uploading, till a week later when everyone's forgoten about it, and other than personal interogation you can do little but rely on your vids quality. Oh and I could possibly be throwing you of but, meh.
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Re: Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

Postby requiett » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 am

Arcane Azmadi wrote:Does anyone have any tips?


Make better vids than everyone. Good work sells itself.
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Re: Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:44 am

Arcane Azmadi wrote:... plus we're Australians so we can't show our work at big American cons...


I fail to see how your location prevents you from submitting to any con that accepts FTP submissions as many are now doing.
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Postby doughboy » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:16 am

Post on other AMV related forums (not just your video, become a part of that group, make them love you first and then your work), kiss a lot of ass, or become good friends with any other talented/well-known editors and hope they pimp your videos for you. ;)
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Re: Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

Postby risk one » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:32 pm

requiett wrote:
Arcane Azmadi wrote:Does anyone have any tips?


Make better vids than everyone. Good work sells itself.


Indeed, just look at the top 10%. Nothing but top notch quality. Each an individual piece of quality art in it's own special way.
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Re: Promoting AMVs- how the heck do you do it?!

Postby Otohiko » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:38 pm

Arcane Azmadi wrote: we can't show our work at big American cons


Says you :roll:

(why not?)
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Postby DeinReich » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:06 pm

Dont banners promote peoples work, too? They link right to the persons profile after all.
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Postby Infinity Squared » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:13 pm

Be a forum whore... and this is coming from a fellow Australian ;)

There's not an Australian convention online forum which doesn't know of my existance (I guess part of the perk as well of the whole AMV coordinator of a convention myself).

It is true that you get attention from announcing your videos when they are released, but really, that dies down after about 4 days to a week when your video reaches the bottom of the pile.

The final advice I can say is... well... you can always make a token video that is well searched for (crap or not)... let the rest of your videos ride on the popularity of that anime... erm... why do you think I have such a crappy Gundam SEED Destiny video :P
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Postby Vancore » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:00 pm

1) Create banners for your sig (Like the two I have in mine for example)
2) Post in the AMV Announcment forums (One shotter)
3) Post a lot if you do have banners (A failing of mine). Its a good way to make yourself known as well.
4) Enter Contests (You usually have a good shot at your vid being seen here)
5) Own a webpage and link it here (Having a indirect next to that Local may help a little bit by being more of an eye-catcher for browsers)
6) Take advantage of posters that are looking for vids sort of like yours (I mainly do this for my Hells Smith's vid that isn't anime whenever one of those "Where are the Non-AMV" threads pop up but it can work both ways)
7) Make an good vid, and as Requiett said it will sell itself... mainly through others talking about it, putting it on their top ten and getting them to advertise it for free whenever someone asks "What vids do you recommend". This is the number one best way of advertising and also the hardest thing to do. There is just so many variables for this one that the only way to reach for this one is that your vid has to be good in some shape or form.
8) Find a spot in the VCA's (Can usually only be accomplished after you succeed at number 7... which probably makes this the hardest part)
9) Ride the popularty Bandwagon (Like Infinity Squared said, grab an anime thats popular and maybe a song thats popular then make an AMV outta them. This will give you at least a good amount of downloads but maybe not a lot of popularity)
10) Kiss a lot of ass (Not exactly sure what doughboy meant but I think it has something to do with number 7 and posting a lot.)
11) Do an Opinion Trade or post your AMV on any free Opinion offerings (Not the best way to spread your work to a wide audiance but at least you know the people your posting it to will probably watch your vid. Could help with number 7 in the long run)
12) Post on other Forums related to AMV's (Like Doughboy said, it always helps to advertise on different sites... just make sure not to annoy them if thats all you went there to do or they may not download your vid for just that reason. It also helps if they know you)

Thats pretty much everything I can think of now. A lot of these advertisements only work if you succeed at number 7 though. If anyone else has anything to include...
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Postby Knowname » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:56 pm

grabbing a popular anime/ song and making a crappy video to it is rather backwards... I mean, if you want exposure... It'll get lost in the fold, ever tried to find a certain dbz- In The End amv you d/led off of p2p, it's IMPOSIBLE! especially if it doesn't have a bumper!
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Postby prettysoldiersailormoon » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:20 am

SOAD2k8 wrote:Dont banners promote peoples work, too? They link right to the persons profile after all.


Yeah just make a damn banner like everyone else or kindly ask someone to make on for you, stick it in your sig and say, "currently pimping"...
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Postby Infinity Squared » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:44 am

Yeah, but that only really works if you are regular enough in the forums, which Arcane isn't really...

That being the case... well, I'm not really sure about this... but I think at least it helps in getting attention to you... write something in your journal ;)

Apparently people do read them... and though this is even more unfathomable, ther may even be a chance that someone follows what you write, so that if for example you were writing which particular stage of production you're in your video, by the time you release, you may even have people already waiting there for you... but then again, that's just me hoping for the impossible, erm, I mean the best... yeah, that's right...
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:25 am

SOAD2k8 wrote:Dont banners promote peoples work, too? They link right to the persons profile after all.


I think its worked for me o.0 (site banners) lol but you gotta make sure that they have really dumb captions or they will never win...

Sig banners are good too if youre a forum reg
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