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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:55 am

BishounenStalker wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:I'm just looking for constructive criticism.. nothing more.. now please stop throwing this off topic.


I hate to break it to you, but "constructive criticism" does not mean "full agreement and/or coddling."
please stop replying to my thread.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:56 am

older_gohan wrote:I couldn't help but get into this.

First off I think anyone that rates AMV's badly because they didn't like the song for either the band, the song itself or any combination of the two; shoul be shot. No one gives a s*** about your taste in music. Obviously the creator of this music video didn't either. So what do you do? Rate it on how well the song fit with the video. That is being unbiased.

As for effects. I am very particular about effects and think any added effect should need at least a small opinion. I've seen smal effects messed up. So really any effect should get a rating. However that's up for you to decide.

Another problem is that people don't factor in possibilite and circumstances. For example I have a video up I made about five years ago with the first mass produced version of windows movie maker. I got it on Windows ME. I thought it was great. MY video wasn't that great and my source material was limited. These all need to be factored into a video. There are thing you have to think about when rating a video. Is it his first video? What source material was he able to use? How good is his movie editor?

DO NOT expect them to have what you have. Because no one is as rich as you or easily able to get the same software as you.

In short his opinion was crap and he should be shot for being that stupid.
Thanks for leaving your opinion. It's appreciated!! ^_^
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Postby older_gohan » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:57 am

No problem. Things like that tend to piss me off.
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Postby bum » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:01 am

Adv1sor wrote: Maybe there should be a minimum number of words or characters required when writing and entering a review?

Or maybe there should be some penalty, (a suspension or removing the ability to enter opinions), for those users that would enter a review such as this one?


A word limit would just put people of OP'ing vids. 1 line ops are fine as long as they leave a small sentence in each box. Not everyone is capable of sharp, constructive critique on an amv. However I like the penalty sugestion. 2 week site/oping ability ban and prenament bans for repeate offenders would be a welcome policy.
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:12 am

x_rex30 wrote:please stop replying to my thread.


What's the matter? Can't take the criticism you asked for?
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:14 am

BishounenStalker wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:please stop replying to my thread.


What's the matter? Can't take the criticism you asked for?
Your just more of a topic derailer than anything else.. so that's why I'd like you to stop, now please do so.
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:17 am

x_rex30 wrote:Your just more of a topic derailer than anything else.. so that's why I'd like you to stop, now please do so.


The topic was derailed long before I got here.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:19 am

BishounenStalker wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:Your just more of a topic derailer than anything else.. so that's why I'd like you to stop, now please do so.


The topic was derailed long before I got here.
for the most part it's getting back on topic.. I'm looking for help.. and you don't really supply it.. you just call batman or whatever therefor you shouldn't post here anymore since your out to screw more than you are out to help.
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:32 am

x_rex30 wrote:for the most part it's getting back on topic.. I'm looking for help.. and you don't really supply it.. you just call batman or whatever therefor you shouldn't post here anymore since your out to screw more than you are out to help.


It's not clear what kind of "help" you were asking for, for one thing. You merely explained the situation and asked what people thought of it. Are you saying you don't people to say anything unless it's what you want to hear? Because that's what it looks like. If that's the case, then don't post to a public forum.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:37 am

BishounenStalker wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:for the most part it's getting back on topic.. I'm looking for help.. and you don't really supply it.. you just call batman or whatever therefor you shouldn't post here anymore since your out to screw more than you are out to help.


It's not clear what kind of "help" you were asking for, for one thing. You merely explained the situation and asked what people thought of it. Are you saying you don't people to say anything unless it's what you want to hear? Because that's what it looks like. If that's the case, then don't post to a public forum.
I don't want people purposely try to derail the topic witch is basicly what you've done. And trying to convince others that is purely just winning about a bad review.. it's about getting reviews on elements in a video witch does not exist.
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:49 am

x_rex30 wrote:
BishounenStalker wrote:I don't want people purposely try to derail the topic witch is basicly what you've done. And trying to convince others that is purely just winning about a bad review.. it's about getting reviews on elements in a video witch does not exist.


And I repeat the topic was derailed on the very first page. But if you want help, try going to the site admins to get your video information changed instead of raising a whinefest on the forum. And if that doesn't work, then just acceot the fact that you're out of luck and move on.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:55 am

BishounenStalker wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:
BishounenStalker wrote:I don't want people purposely try to derail the topic witch is basicly what you've done. And trying to convince others that is purely just winning about a bad review.. it's about getting reviews on elements in a video witch does not exist.


And I repeat the topic was derailed on the very first page. But if you want help, try going to the site admins to get your video information changed instead of raising a whinefest on the forum. And if that doesn't work, then just acceot the fact that you're out of luck and move on.
well I don't think I'm completely out of luck since they said they may be able to fix it.. but derobert would probably have to figure out how to fix it so he could disable the effects score for that video.. so it's part of a technical issue in fixing it.. but I was hoping they could delete the review since it's a shitty review to begin with, and when I mentioned that I was going to get it deleted, he decided to change his score to prevent that.. man sorry if it just seems like I'm just bitching for the sake of bitching.. I'm not upset about the over all score.. just the fact I got an effects score to a video that doesn't have any effects.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:58 am

Just to make my self more clear.. I'd be equally mad if he gave me a ten for the effects.. this isn't just about getting a low score.
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:01 am

I can see being upset about people scoring stuff that doesn't exist. But if you've pretty much got things on the way to being fixed, why post to the forum? That's what makes it seem like bitching for bitching's sake. If you've already done something about it and administration is cooperating, there's no need for a forum thread. Your member journal would've been a better place for venting.
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Postby x_rex30 » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:07 am

BishounenStalker wrote:I can see being upset about people scoring stuff that doesn't exist. But if you've pretty much got things on the way to being fixed, why post to the forum? That's what makes it seem like bitching for bitching's sake. If you've already done something about it and administration is cooperating, there's no need for a forum thread. Your member journal would've been a better place for venting.
I see where your coming from.. they said they'll try and fix it.. I was told to PM derobert but I never seem to get a response from him.. and Tsunami Jones says the overall review is just his opinion so there's no reason to delete it.. and I've been waiting over a month to get this fixed.. so this is just me getting more impatient and seeing if maybe someone could try a bit harder to get it fixed.. or see if others think it's legit enough to get the op deleted since it's pretty lousy in the first place. that would relieve a lot of frustration.. and if they did just do that for now, all I'd have to worry about is someone else reviewing the effects.
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