Adv1sor wrote:It's not that hard to edit around lip flap!
But I chose not to. I have talked about this one before and it seems I need to do that again.
The reason why people nowadays see lip flapping a problem is the amount of lip syncing done. Some people... they see good lip sync here and there and they automatically assume every AMV needs to have lip sync. It doesn't matter to them if it actually makes the anime less fitting the music/lyrics.. It just has to be there. Even with instrumental AMVs it's "See! His lip moved! AND IT WAS NOT SYNCED!".
When the lip sync/lip flap is needed/should-be-cut-out depends on the AMV. I agree there are times when lip flap is bad, and lip sync is good. But going on like "STOP THE LIP FLAP ZMG TRNNT IT'SREI!" is wrong. There are times when seeing a character not talking feels more stupid than a "lip flap". "so why not lip sync it?", some may ask.. There might be several reasons why not. Female singing, male character talking.. Singing is intensive and lyric based, following the quiet and moody scene.. Like eg. character confessing her/his love to the another character when the music is reaching its' peak, creating a turning point in the AMV's story. And so on...
Some examples from my own AMVs. (this is not pimpage.. I just know my own work best :3) I tend to leave the lip flap in because of the extra movement it creates. Best example being my latest School Rumble AMV (others interested in what I rant here should check it out for reference.. Adv1sor: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM IT! It has lip flap..you were warned). It's based on retelling the SR ep22 where they have the kibasen-fight. Music is just something epic I picked for spice.. I chose Duel of the Fates for storytelling purposes. There's major lip flapping going on. Students talking to each other.. on and off "horse"back. What they say is up to the viewer's imagination. That is the whole point. Viewer may decide to follow the original episode's lines, or just go with the flow with his/her own imagination. The storyline is also altered a little for this reason too. Now if you have seen it, try to imagine the same thing with all the lip flapping removed. I personally think that that would suck (even more). It's either the people don't see this, they are unable to use their imagination, they are spoiled/ruined by lip sync AMVs or I just plainly fail at AMVing.
Other good example is my Otaku Paradise AMV. Most of what is just said also applies to this one. In Otaku Paradise there's one very long scene with maids in the courtyard are listening one of the maids telling a story while Genshiken clips are crossimaged behind her. It's one of my favourite scenes in that AMV, and it's also the one people complain about most. Makes me go "eh"

I admit that Otaku Paradise has few lip flaps that I should have left out and they bother even me a bit. Like the scene where Tarou is in hid bed. But then again OP isn't my best AMV
So.. There is also times when I DO remove the lip flap. Yes, there are occasions when even I feel the lip flap shouldn't be there. For example something like what's mentioned before in this thread.. "zooming into character's eyes". Problem with these edits is that when they are not visible, they aren't appreciated. It's very rare that the AMV-viewer notices that "hey.. I thought that in this scene the character talked.. wow, he removed the lip flap". I actually do a lot of editing and finetuning in my AMVs. I even alter the images a lot sometimes. There are times when I have done so and I get opinion like "I didn't see any effects so I didn't give any score in that". This is what makes me feel really good =^_^=
Adv1sor.. the long story short:
Lip flap as a problem is case sensitive. While there are bad lip flap AMVs out there, lip flap as itself is not a problem. It's inside your head.. deal with it or stop whining about to completely stop doing it. Beauty of this .org is that you may dislike or like AMVs as you choose and then delete the ones you didn't like.