How do you get into the to 10%

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Postby ssj4lonewolf » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:51 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Make a good video.

Nuff said.
Oh god, that black dude with the afro is always making those damn trash ass music hip hop amvs...he needs to do something with techno or rock....
.......as if I would do something like that.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:11 pm

OmniStrata wrote:Quantity over Quality? You be the judge...


More like Quality vs Percieved Quality. Don't underestimate the power of poor taste in large numbers.
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Postby ANTDrakko » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:39 pm

OmniStrata wrote:Don't worry too much about that top 10% crap.

I'd rather have a video with 10k opinions rating average of 6-7 rather than all 10s...



Why would you want to have 10 thousand people tell you that your video is "meh" at best?

I'de rather a single renowned (person with a certain level of expertise and wisdow) tell me I did good than 10k people I did bad.

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Postby devilmaykickass » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:56 pm

I've found manwhoring works quite well.
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Postby SuperFusion » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:04 pm

Create multiple accoutns on the same day with only 3 minutes of registration between them and give yourself 345 opinions with 10s across the board with comments like "ZOMFG THAT PWND"
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Postby Tono_Fyr » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:11 pm

SuperFusion wrote:Create multiple accoutns on the same day with only 3 minutes of registration between them and give yourself 345 opinions with 10s across the board with comments like "ZOMFG THAT PWND"


And use those accounts to give as much of your competition as possible straight 1s, saying something to the effect of "ZOMFG THAT SUXED"
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Postby Ashyukun » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:20 pm

Tono_Fyr wrote:
SuperFusion wrote:Create multiple accoutns on the same day with only 3 minutes of registration between them and give yourself 345 opinions with 10s across the board with comments like "ZOMFG THAT PWND"


And use those accounts to give as much of your competition as possible straight 1s, saying something to the effect of "ZOMFG THAT SUXED"


You know, I'd like to laugh at this.... if it didn't actually happen....
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:47 pm

ssj4lonewolf wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:Make a good video.

Nuff said.


That or add in Naruto and your chances of popularity increase :P

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Postby Nightowl » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:31 am

In order to get on the top 10% you have to suck a LOT of dick. A lot. Take this however you wish.

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Postby TaranT » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:11 am

Scintilla wrote:I've been told that the Bayesian average system actually gives lower-ranked videos on the Star Scale <i>lower</i> scores the more star ratings they get.

This is in fact what happens as dwp's last graph shows.

Suppose there was a video called POS that the world - if it knew about it - would collectively score with a 2. That vid would start out with an adjusted score of about 5. Theoretically, as more opinions/ratings were given, the score would approach 2. But the reality is...people don't stampede to watch bad videos. The word always gets around.

One of the tradeoffs of this scoring method is that bad vids will be overrated and with some exceptions, will remain overrated forever.

On the other side we have what someone called "hidden gems". HGs will be underrated by this scoring method and will remain that way unless - somehow - they becomes "un-hidden" and receive many ratings. The HGs at least have this possibility open to them where the POS generally does not.

And the HGs have one other advantage brought about by the fact that people generally only rate or opinionate the videos that they like. This produces the absurdly high population average (around 8). While this helps to inflate the score of a POS, it also puts the score of an HG closer to its theoretical average (keeping in mind that an HG by definition has few ratings/opinions).

I'm not suggesting that things get changed. But there are tradeoffs with everything and especially anything to do with statistics. You just have to understand all of what you're getting.
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Postby genestarwind21122 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:10 am

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:
ssj4lonewolf wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:Make a good video.

Nuff said.


That or add in Naruto and your chances of popularity increase :P

Vlad


x3. Oh and use Linkin Park that will increase your chances by a 1,000 times more. Hey it worked for Senta Miller he made Otakon finals with it. Seriously.
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Postby Ashyukun » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:51 am

Nightowl wrote:In order to get on the top 10% you have to suck a LOT of dick. A lot. Take this however you wish.

-N


It's definitely good having you back, Nate- it was bloody boring without you. :D
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Postby psycoculex » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:11 am

Name your amv "Euphoria". At least the name will be in the top 10%
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Postby Beowulf » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:24 am

genestarwind21122 wrote:
Vlad G Pohnert wrote:
ssj4lonewolf wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:Make a good video.

Nuff said.


That or add in Naruto and your chances of popularity increase :P

Vlad


x3. Oh and use Linkin Park that will increase your chances by a 1,000 times more. Hey it worked for Senta Miller he made Otakon finals with it. Seriously.


This smells a lot like jealousy. Senta MIller made the Otakon finals because he's damn good.
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Postby Ashyukun » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:53 am

Beowulf wrote:
genestarwind21122 wrote:x3. Oh and use Linkin Park that will increase your chances by a 1,000 times more. Hey it worked for Senta Miller he made Otakon finals with it. Seriously.


This smells a lot like jealousy. Senta MIller made the Otakon finals because he's damn good.


RAmen.

You have to respect someone who is good enough to go from having the audience all but booing at their title card (there was a lot of very loud groaning in the audience when it came up) to quickly changing their tune once they actually see the video and cheering and applauding when the video ended. The fact he's proven his skill by winning the action category multiple times at Otakon also tends to lend itself towards it simply being because he's a damn good editor, not because of what he used for sources.

Now if only he would learn to turn off his cell phone...... :roll:
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