SOAD2k8 wrote:I dont think that the RIAA is going to shut down a site that the anime industry for the most part likes. And if they do, you'll be seeing me on the news, because I have attacked the RIAA HQ.
Farlo wrote:you guys should know that the org servers are in derobert's storage building in sweden...
khyron wrote:...what would we all do if AMV was gone from the 'net one morning? What if we could never congregate here and swap videos again?
khyron wrote:Farlo wrote:you guys should know that the org servers are in derobert's storage building in sweden...
That's refreshing news, I apologize for sounding alarmist if it was unwarranted but don't know much personally about who exactly runs the site. So I take it that DNS is offshore as well? Is the domain refistered to an offshore address? It would be ideal if the whole operation plus some of the key people involved were isolated from the RIAA's span of control in some way.
SOAD2k8 wrote:One question, however. If we moved the servers outside of America, then the RIAA would have no say in shutting them down, right (granted the process will take a while)? Just making sure I'm on the same page here.
SOAD2k8 wrote:Personally, though, i believe that things will be done to stop P2P networking before they decide to shut down this site, or others like this one, because right now that is a bigger problem in the RIAA's eyes. That process alone will take years, so we are in the clear for a while.
khyron wrote:SOAD2k8 wrote:One question, however. If we moved the servers outside of America, then the RIAA would have no say in shutting them down, right (granted the process will take a while)? Just making sure I'm on the same page here.
IANAL, but if the DNS and hosting were managed offshore, by people offshore, then yes the RIAA would have a hard time pressuring a shutdown. Of course the offshore ISP would still be able to shut down the site if they felt like it, so that's a consideration.
SOAD2k8 wrote:khyron wrote:SOAD2k8 wrote:One question, however. If we moved the servers outside of America, then the RIAA would have no say in shutting them down, right (granted the process will take a while)? Just making sure I'm on the same page here.
IANAL, but if the DNS and hosting were managed offshore, by people offshore, then yes the RIAA would have a hard time pressuring a shutdown. Of course the offshore ISP would still be able to shut down the site if they felt like it, so that's a consideration.
Perhaps, but I think its safe to say if we moved them to, lets say, Canada, that the laws regarding the same issues would not be as strict and Communistic (not sure if thats even a word) as the RIAA's
aoi_neko wrote:Legally, I think it could be argued either way. But, even assuming that we were legally in the right and that it all falls under "fair use," one's legal rights make precious little difference. a-m-v.org doesn't really have the resources to fight it out for years, the eventual court decision as to "fair use" or no *isn't* guaranteed, and the damages (thanks to "statuatory damages") could be astronomical even if the *actual* damages were zero.
Time to start thinking about a fallback plan....
SOAD2k8 wrote:Perhaps, but I think its safe to say if we moved them to, lets say, Canada, that the laws regarding the same issues would not be as strict and Communistic (not sure if thats even a word) as the RIAA's
downwithpants wrote:you mean capitalist? communist would be one of the last words i'd use to describe the riaa.
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