Oversynching: Is it possible?

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Postby Kusoyaro » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:21 pm

I tend to oversynch every one of my videos on the first time through. When you're editing, you're editing on a very small scale, just a tiny portion of the song at a time...so it's easy to try and hit everything, while missing the bigger picture. The trick is to back off every now and then and watch how, say, a 30-second segment of your video plays out...then you can go in and take out extraneous edits and effects that disrupt the feel of your video.
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Postby LCY84 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:56 pm

x_rex30 wrote:
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dwchang wrote:Flow > Beats ;)

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Syncing with using cuts is usually a good sureshot way to sync, but it's not the best. Example: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=36320



Too many fast cuts and you'll make your AMV harder to follow. Sure it looks damn good (if you pick the right scenes), but in the end it's just a image fest.


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Postby Decoy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Over synching…? Totally possible! In fact I’m guilty of it myself.

The Kenshin vid I made a year or so back, was made to Overseer’s Supermoves – now that’s a busy song. I went and synched almost every single beat to something or another. The result? Total chaos! While it was almost flawlessly [note almost] synched…it was a bit too much and detracted form the whole experience I was trying to create.
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Postby Bote » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:04 pm

I never felt I oversynched something in my vids. Strangely enough this is the first time I'm trying to analise whether I've gone abroad somewhere.

But yeah, I guess. One thing I hate is when the editor synchs background drumm hits (the ones that are barely heard and which shouldn't be followed at all) with black flashes. :|
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Postby Brolly345 » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:05 pm

Somehow I feel that the overwhelming responce in this thread doesn't seem to match the opinions of a majority of the users. What I've encountered through my timeless searching for videos (the database is hueg), is that people either don't do it, or do it obscenely. My worry is that people interpret the opinions of others that read something like:

"u need t osync mroe"

as something to be followed to the letter. I'm seeing more and more of people worrying to hit every beat, and ignoring flow. Here's a hint: while it might be cool to watch once, the videos that will stick with people, much like movies, are the ones that mean something. Sure, you can make a video that hits every beat, it can be fast paced and cool, and people will like it. However, when you make something that tells a story, or some other sappy nonsense, and do it well, it will be remebered longer. For good measure (and perhaps to back up my comparison to movies), think of the classics that are commonly referred to in pop culter. The Godfather, Gone with the Wind, Casablanca, and others. While I personally don't like these movies, they stand the test of time and hold as testament to the theory that a story well told will captivate audiences for ages.

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Postby Undertow » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:34 pm

I don't really know if i oversync or not. I sync to what i think is right, and what feels right.
The only video i think i could have oversynced would be my Akira video, but then again, hardly anyone can view it without getting a throbbing headache.
If anyone's seen any of my videos, please tell me. I think i could use a bit of professional feedback. I mean, most of the opinions i had were those kind that make you hurl, except for the few that i begged for, and those were awesome.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:35 pm

i like to pick and choose which beats i want to hit... i like the idea that flow > beatsync... if it doesnt flow with the video then no need to use that beat...

the overall experience to me is more important than hitting beats.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:01 pm

I've almost doen this but caught myself. After spending about 2 hours marking every beat in a section of audio i stopped and asked myself what the hell i thought i was doing.If you keep yourself in check and find skilled/honest people to beta your vids you should be okay.
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Postby Sammy » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:32 pm

Sammy wrote:
godix wrote:
Sammy wrote:Thanks godix. I always thought there was something rotten about that video. I'm glad you took the time in this thread to point out its flaws.

You're quite welcome but really we should be thanking you for all the fine negative examples you've produced over the years.


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Postby Otohiko » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:50 pm

Oh. You did?

:cry: That was beautiful. Evar.
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Postby doughboy » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:43 am

Beowulf wrote:Most of Tsukin's work is like that and his videos rock, so there you go.


Wow, -20 respect points for Beo. :down:


Beowulf wrote:3. Sprinkled heavily in place of need. Example: When a new instriment is introduced such as a high-hat during a bridge of a song.


That's my philosophy. Don't go overboard with useless nonsense unless the song gives a specific point in time that inspires such video trickery. Simple cuts and fades are perfectly fine for the rest, let the footage talk for itself.
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Postby SuperFusion » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:49 am

doughboy wrote:
Beowulf wrote:Most of Tsukin's work is like that and his videos rock, so there you go.


Wow, -20 respect points for Beo. :down:



I second that :o
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Postby Beowulf » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:57 am

SuperFusion wrote:
doughboy wrote:
Beowulf wrote:Most of Tsukin's work is like that and his videos rock, so there you go.


Wow, -20 respect points for Beo. :down:



I second that :o


WTF no one likes Tsukin?
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Postby SuperFusion » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:13 am

Meh.... the only video from him I truly liked was Bleed the Sky... :/
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Postby Nightowl » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:30 am

Sammy wrote:Ummm.....I just confessed to crying, and no one cares?


I care, Sammy, I care.

I'm glad people are saying synching instead of timing.

I have no comment on the subject. Er... I like concept? Conceptual artistic practices that no one seems to adhere to these days? Um... I like pretty things? Meaning? I don't know, how about... feh, I'm not in the mood.

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