jbone wrote:Everyone who makes AMVs is an editor.
Virtually nobody who edits AMVs is an artist.
Many people who edit AMVs are designers.
"Creator" is a poor description, as nothing is "created." Every AMV is "edited." If something is "created" (such as custom 3D), the video is no longer mainstream AMV - it becomes something else.
"Keywords" are pointless. People who try to wedge themselves and others into categories can never be artists, and make terrible designers. Worse are the people who insist upon claiming artistry, but who don't even know what it is.
My friend thinks the same thing(as well do I), and he's got a job from Don Bluth. I would say my friend knows quite a bit about artistic creativity since he is both an animator and musicianBeowulf wrote:jbone wrote:Everyone who makes AMVs is an editor.
Virtually nobody who edits AMVs is an artist.
Many people who edit AMVs are designers.
"Creator" is a poor description, as nothing is "created." Every AMV is "edited." If something is "created" (such as custom 3D), the video is no longer mainstream AMV - it becomes something else.
"Keywords" are pointless. People who try to wedge themselves and others into categories can never be artists, and make terrible designers. Worse are the people who insist upon claiming artistry, but who don't even know what it is.
Yes
I would consider myself an artist, even by the standard that nothing is created when making an AMV (which I would debate). I'm a creative person; I like creating things plain and simple. Whether its AMVs, sketches on paper, writting, poetry, rythyms that I drum on my stomach, scenerios that I think of in my head while I listen to music, it doesnt matter. I enjoy creating things, so that = "artist" in my mind.
Debating the level or artistry inherint in certain activities is about as productive as debating religeon or politics. I'm only 19 and I think I can safely say that a masterpeice can be made out of anything by anyone under any circumstance at any time. From Mona Lisa, to The David, to the archetectual plans for Eifel Tower, to music videos, to anime music videos, to Piss Christ, to the doodles you draw while your on the phone, its all art to me. Art is art is art.
I think what defines an artist are the reasons why he/she does what he does. Not what he does, or how well he does them.
To me, my definition of "artistry" would be to turn a feeling you have inside of you into something tangible. Taking a peice of yourself and putting it into somethig you create: thats art.
Otohiko wrote:I do, literally, believe in higher (and sometimes lower) powers as the actual sources of art, and think that it would be naive for someone to think they're ever actually creating something rather than borrowing and filtering. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with that.
...but hey, I'm just weird in this regard... I guess
x_rex30 wrote:My friend thinks the same thing(as well do I), and he's got a job from Don Bluth. I would say my friend knows quite a bit about artistic creativity since he is both an animator and musician
godix wrote:Pretentious Wanker: Anyone who spends time and effort trying to show that what they do is art and what other people do is crap.
I don't know what exactly what your trying to counter argue?? Of course you don't need to know anything artistic(I guess) to do those things, but him being a writer, artist, and musician points to a higher possibility for him being quite the artistic individual, and just to say you DON'T NEED TO KNOW is kinda stupid thing to say since most likely my friend is artistic. Also I think Nightowl has made the best points so far in this discussion.jbone wrote:x_rex30 wrote:My friend thinks the same thing(as well do I), and he's got a job from Don Bluth. I would say my friend knows quite a bit about artistic creativity since he is both an animator and musician
You don't need to know anything "artistic" to be an animator or a musician. Creativity is needed, sure, but not art.
The one doesn't imply or require the other.
x_rex30 wrote:I don't know what exactly what your trying to counter argue?? Of course you don't need to know anything artistic(I guess) to do those things, but him being a writer, artist, and musician points to a higher possibility for him being quite the artistic individual, and just to say you DON'T NEED TO KNOW is kinda stupid thing to say since most likely my friend is artistic. Also I think Nightowl has made the best points so far in this discussion.
LOL. What about your logical argument.jbone wrote:I was correcting your logical argument.
x_rex30 wrote:LOL. What about your logical argument.jbone wrote:I was correcting your logical argument.I say the guy gets hired by Don Bluth witch is the creator of The Secret of NIMH, and also wrote the script for all dogs go to heaven, and is also asking for my friends help with the producing of a film, and you'r trying to counter argue with me about him being an ARTIST!! Your being quite a hypocrite by trying to correct my logical argument, when your logical reasoning seems way out of place, and shows signs of you being quite the arrogant individual.
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