"Official" AMV Creators CD Distro?

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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:53 am

Yeah, that's right.

Well, once it gets finalised you would send your cds to, well, Red Wolf I guess. The format depends on you - you can do a data cd with files or if you want to make a vcd then that's fine too. The creator has complete control over the content of the cd, the distro just copies it. If the creator wants the cd changed or the distro stopped then that is also their perogative.

All information regarding what someone would need to play the cd will be kept on the database. There isn't really a limit on the cds a creator can make so if you want to make a vcd and a data cd then that's ok - people will just choose one or the other.

It looks like everyone seems to be interested in one way or another so we'll start and make the backbone of the distro and start requesting cds from creators.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Oct 06, 2002 12:03 pm

Okay, AD. Keep me posted.
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Postby nailz » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:14 pm

And, for those of us with more than enough videos to fill a CD can send in multiple cds, and you'd be handling that, for example, as such:

I send in 2 CDs.

CD#1 has, for example, Rollin, Deadly Love, and Lord of the Ballz.
CD#2 has, for example, Breakstuff, Battle of the Mind, and Eva Meets Cleo

I'd have 2 spots in whatever database of requests, and it would be up the individual requesting the cds to pick one or the other, or both, correct? Heh, would make for some interesting planning on the AMV Creators part, huh?

I assume your answer will be yes, I'm just asking for anyone who hadn't thought about it. =)

Question #2: Will we, the creators, be notified when our cds are requested?
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Postby Kai Stromler » Sun Oct 06, 2002 2:40 pm

Count me in support of this as well.....eventho it means I actually have to organize my back catalog into CD-images and pay freakish amounts of postage.

WRT mpeg2 distro, it should be remembered that MPEG2 playback capability is not to be taken for granted (yet); if you don't have hosting you might want to put together a CD of your work in MPEG1 or DivX and send that to the distro as well.

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Postby Red Wolf » Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:29 pm

How did I miss this post :P

I'm glad there is such good vibes about this idea. I was real psyched when AD first contacted me about it. As AD has stated I'll be starting up the initial distro center with AD providing an European mirror. I know there are folks interested in helping out with additional distro centers and that's great. For now, since this is a start up project, I think multiple distro centers to start would both be unnecessary and a bit chaotic (especially with stat tracking as some creators have expressed an interest in). So I would suggest we get the project started first with one U.S. distro center (me) and follow it up immediately with AD's European mirror. Then, once the project gets situated, we can look at picking up other mirrors such as a Canadian one and, if the project becomes big enough, start up additional U.S. mirrors.

An idea I've had concerning creators with a limited number of videos is get together with another creator or two, combine videos, and submit that compilation CD.
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Postby nailz » Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:37 pm

I like that idea.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:51 pm

I like the compilation CD idea. It prevents a disc from not being used to it's full potential, and it gets two creators air time for the price of one.
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Postby Red Wolf » Sun Oct 06, 2002 7:07 pm

CD Labels: I would have no objection to keeping a stash of CD labels provided by creators for their CDs. I have the means to apply most any CD label and I could easily contact creators when their labels are getting low (it would also give them a good sense of how many of their CDs are going out). Anyone who didn't want to deal with labels could still "name" their CD but it would be labeled with a Sharpie.

Mixing AMVs: While being able to pick and choose the AMVs you want may be nice remember AD started this project for the creators. Mixing and matching would also become a serious undertaking on the distributors part, especially if this project really took off. Another thing to remember, which no one has brought up yet, is that you can ask for as many CDs as you want. You can request a single CD or a dozen (just keep in mind the added postage).

What CDs to Send: As it has been stated on here a lot of dub distros either bought tapes in bulk or requested a particular brand for swapping. However CD aren't mechanical like VHS tapes are so they inherently have less problems. Therefore a "cheap" is a lot less likely to cause problems like a "cheap" VHS would. As the distro I would have more concern about the speed of the CD sent to me (I'm thinking a minimum of 16x, 24x or 32x preferred) than the brand. If someone goes with a brand that doesn't last more than a year that is there issue. If someone sends in a non functional CD then, as Phade put it, I would probably bite the cost and let the person know and I'd have to think about trading with them again. I have an Office Depot and Best Buy 5 miles from work and home so getting free or near free CDs for distro use wouldn't be a problem for the occasional need (but I couldn't get enough for everyone).

Creator Stats: I'm checking out some programs now that would allow my to both catalog the CDs and provide notes or stats so I can easily keep track of how many times each CD has been mailed off. Please don't suggest any programs...I'm on a Mac :twisted:
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Postby SETA_ANIME_FAN_SUB » Sun Oct 06, 2002 9:49 pm

Would you shipping outside us?

And, what happen to projects like ddr project?
It come in one CD or each track will be in it's creator CD?
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Postby The Wired Knight » Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:16 pm

The DDR project doesn't get distributed this way with all likelyhood. You can get one or two tracks based on the creator but to get the whole project you probably should still contact Hsein.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:09 am

The Wired Knight wrote:The DDR project doesn't get distributed this way with all likelyhood. You can get one or two tracks based on the creator but to get the whole project you probably should still contact Hsein.


I don't see why we can't distribute the ddr projects, with brad's permission. The whole thing that will make the distro work is the fact that all the amv cds you want are in the same place.

Hsien is doing vcd distro mainly because they ddr project is too big for internet distro, I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with the amv distro helping him out.
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Postby Declan_Vee » Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:12 am

If you're planning on having divisions all over the world then I'd be willing cover the South Pacific. I've only just started to prepare similar CDs for what conventions may happen next year.
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Postby klinky » Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:38 am

Man I think you guys should charge a little bit for time/energy.

It's going to take atleast 3 1/2 minutes to burn a CD. 100 - 200 cds would take up quite a bit of time...

$1.00 per order + SASE sounds reasonable, so long as all proceeds goto bettering the project... :\


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Postby CaTaClYsM » Mon Oct 07, 2002 7:41 am

pshhhhhhhhutuppppppp, don't give them ideas.
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Postby Red Wolf » Mon Oct 07, 2002 10:03 am

DDR Project: I had planned on talking to Hsein and Brad about distro the DDR Projects (kinda surprised they haven't posted here yet). I already have the DDR Project 1 VCD so I would only need a VCD of the second project. AD, if you haven't yet maybe one of us should shoot them an email or private message or something.

Charging for the Service: While I appreciate the thought I think it would be best to start as a free service. Taking money throws in a a lot of new issues. Some people hate the idea of exchanging money for AMV CDs, even to cover cost. It puts the distros on a larger legal quandary with distributing copyrighted goods in the first place. When money is involved, no matter the sum, expectations quickly rise. People wouldn't be as patient to get their CDs even if there was a serious back order and that would add pressure to the distros.
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