AMVs: What's next?

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Postby mexicanjunior » Wed Sep 18, 2002 9:54 pm

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mexicanjunior wrote:Although there has yet to be a Faye that impresses me...


I saw a decent looking Faye at A-Kon but we didn't get any pics of her. :(



This is a picture that is in my profiles section of CONs on my website....


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:shock: That guy is one lucky mofo.... :shock:
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Postby Castor Troy » Wed Sep 18, 2002 10:36 pm

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Postby Vancore » Thu Sep 19, 2002 2:37 am

AMV making on descent?
All Techniques taken?
Goldenage over with?

What words of doom are these. I say Naught, this is only the passing of the beggining of AMV making. Now comes the time of taste and choices without the poor quility of many vids before. Now is the time of the great Naming where a AMV isn't just judged by itself, but by those who made it. Now is the time where it isn't what type of Tech you use but how you use it. The "GoldenAge" of AMV making still has great momentom as does Anime itself and both are becoming more widespread. With new fans of Anime come new fans of AMV's.
I would not say the GoldenAge has ended, On the contrary I would say it still has a way to go. I would only say it had ended if those who started the GoldenAge were no longer making Video's.

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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Sep 19, 2002 3:33 am

Vancore wrote:I would not say the GoldenAge has ended, On the contrary I would say it still has a way to go. I would only say it had ended if those who started the GoldenAge were no longer making Video's.


You mean like Kevin Caldwell?

The golden age of anime was the 80s. The golden age of amvs was the late 90s. The fact that there's been so much talk of a slump this year is evidence that there's nothing much golden about amvs in 2002.

Vancore wrote:Now is the time of the great Naming where a AMV isn't just judged by itself, but by those who made it.


Are you saying that the good amvs are by the big names? That's a load of rubbish for starters. I was a nobody until I released SRV - now I'm just a little more than a nobody :)

I didn't say that amv making was in a decline but it is clear that the transition phase from niche hobbyist work to popular pastime has been and gone. That transition period was heralded by some truly great amvs by some very good amv makers - and yes there are amv makers from that period who are no longer making amvs. These landmark video really pushed amv making into the public eye and started the popularity you see now. That was the golden age, it's over.

This doesn't mean an end to all that is good but it does mean that the amv world has become comfy, so to speak - but that's not a bad thing really. Just because there are no real innovations in cinema these days doesn't mean that there are no good movies any more.
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Postby OmniStrata » Thu Sep 19, 2002 9:35 am

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/ ... p?mid=7794

Yeah, AD, you're a nobody till SRV was released? Heh, I know the feeling. And according to stats, I'M STILL an unknown.

So, using the info above, I'll be widening my horizons a bit.

I'd like to say thank you for the info posted here from everyone. Especially the one about the drama videos. I'd like to hope [very hard] that "Moonlight Vengeance" is a "Different" type of Drama video...

"Drama scenes to drama music" = dumb. Now that I analyze it, it makes sense. And so, I intend to shoot for something different. Yes, I'm still gunning toward the audiences. Why? CAUSE I'M PART OF THEM DAMNIT!

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Though, I think the "conflicting" anime to music maybe something new, I'm sure someone has tried this. The question is, who is it so I can learn from them. Maybe not, I don't want to end up editing like them.

Let's just hope my new series ends up as widely accepted as Feel the Rhythm eh?

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Postby Castor Troy » Thu Sep 19, 2002 9:55 am

Like a FuYu vid I saw at Fanime this year. It was just take-dramatic-scenes-and-string-them-together. It would've been just as dramatic without the audio at all."


Would you rather put comedy scenes to dramatic music instead? :?
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Postby Kusoyaro » Thu Sep 19, 2002 10:22 am

To me, around '99-'00 was the most exciting time for AMVs...that was when a lot of new innovation was going on, such as experimentation with overlays, digital lip sync, etc. Of course, all that has been overused now, but back then it was really new and exciting stuff. I guess masking and compositing is the new "big thing," but it's not anything I could ever see myself getting deeply into.
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Postby Big Big Truck » Thu Sep 19, 2002 11:28 am

Same here. I'm a big fan of the good ol' cross fade and straight cut.
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Postby Koopiskeva » Thu Sep 19, 2002 11:48 am

Hmm...

I guess I started just right after the so called 'Golden Age' of amv making. Anyways, the way I see it, the art of AMV making still has a long ways to go. I guess I can state it better by comparing it to video games. When the jump from 2d to 3d based games started coming out with the release of new consoles in the late 90's, it totally revolutionized the gaming industry as more and more developers started to create games that would push the technology to the limit. As time passed though, people could clearly see the difference between games with real substance and those that are just purely based on 'looking good' and not much else.
This is the way I feel about amvs. Although many of the same tricks are pulled off over and over again, I feel that what will really make an AMV stand out is the concept.... for now. From my viewpoint, we've probavbly just reached a plateau in a sense. Nobody really knows what the future has in store. I doubt very much that back then in the early days of amv creating that we'd see videos come as far as they have. I have no doubt in my mind that new revolutionary ideas or techniques will someday arise and cause another cycle of amvs being done in the same fashion. As long as creators continue to always become more original than the other guy, I believe that amv creating will yet again reach a higher level.

I dunno.. that's just me.. don't hurt me. :shock:
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Postby FirestormXIII » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:45 pm

Don't mind me, I'm just posting here in the hopes that the forum will recover this thread, since it seems to have gotten rid of it in the midst of being ressurected. Continue discussing ^_^
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Postby Chef » Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:22 pm

you kno, i dont think the term golden age applies here, because lets face it, these things are, basically, clip shows to a song. im not saying it doesnt take talent and creativity, but really...
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Postby ladydx » Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:05 am

hmm..okay..my 2 cents here..

As for a "golden age" of vids...whomever said something to the effect that it depends alot on the time that you really got into anime and AMV's makes a big difference was right. It's not even been over a year yet that I found both..quite by accident..(but a very good accident! :D ) and have fell in love with them both! I think alot depends on the creator...with new ideas, who knows what can happen...how's the saying go? Think outside the box....that's always a good thing.....

Drama..while I like some of the heart wrenching drama vids I've seen...for my own vids...I have to throw in a touch of humor somewhere...call it a personality quirk..I can't always be so serious....
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Postby Vancore » Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:16 am

Hoy, looks like the forums are back online. Sweet.

Yes, Kevin Caldwell did cross my mind but I rated him amoung those who helped push AMV's into the popularity that they now have. After reading further posts I guess it was a bit hasty stating what I said about the Golden Age. What I was trying to say is the Golden Age was based more or less on popularity and not innovation. Skewed maybe, but your comment about the movies made me think back to what many critics like to see as the Golden Age of movies, the 70's. And the further comment on Video Games whose Golden Age would be in the 90's.
So I concede, without futher innovation the golden age of AMV's ended but that doesn't mean that they are not good anymore. They just became what every other form of media has become.

Oh and Chef, everything has its Golden Age. even Lemons. :P
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Postby josepi » Fri Sep 27, 2002 4:37 pm

I agree the AMV Formula seems to be angst+drama why cant we all just use comedy and get along. Otaku Vengeance's Lord Rae did a hilarious AMV to the System Of A Down song Sugar. Any way thats my 2 cents like me or hate me. :roll:
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