Grr...

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Postby OriginalIggy » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:34 pm

Well I've been scouting out the Forum...HOPING to find it nice and cozy, somewhere to talk NICELY with fellows...

BUT half the guys that post are being gay in their replies..

BE a lil more considerate and...well cheerful..
I'm not askin on my behalf..
but all the newb amv makers topics i'm lookin thru, all these long time members are pushin the n00bs off in their replies...

Guys Chill out..
Were here cause we all have somethibg common to talk about and trade info...right?
Or Am I just clueless about what a forum is for?

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Postby Vazor » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:36 pm

Nice quote. Yours?
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Postby OriginalIggy » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:38 pm

and To further add from the Newbie post at the top..

MANY beginers do not know the answer to AMV's simple lil q's..
so chillax, help, and they will in turn get off ur ass...U guys post a million worthless replies, why not make them worth something to the person?
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Thx Vazor

Postby OriginalIggy » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:39 pm

yeah it's my qoute^_^ thx Vazor..
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:56 pm

We do help. We write guides, we answer questions we do a lot for this community. However, we get sick of doing it every day. So, we help those who help themselves.

If someone has read the guides, searched on the forums and still has a question then we answer happily and helpfully pretty much all of the time. This is very rarely the situation however.

Just consider that in a few months time when you've seen 1000 "How do I Rip DVDs" posts and "How do I upload to this website". I try not to flame and point people in the right direction but sometimes people dont like being told to use the search button, for some reason.
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Postby Kai Stromler » Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:58 pm

OriginalIggy wrote:MANY beginers do not know the answer to AMV's simple lil q's..


This is why such things as the stickies on video making/hosting, Hitori's/Turboneko's FAQ, and the ubiquitous guides have come into being. 90% of new AMV makers will find 90% of their questions answered between the guides, the unofficial FAQs, and the threads permanently at the top of various forums.

However, this means that ~19% of total questions still need to be asked. Most of these questions are with regard to "nonstandard" software/hardware setups (most technical guides focus towards use of Adobe Premiere with ripped DVD footage in a Windows environment), and in the "video help" forums, they are answered (most of the time) helpfully and civilly, though if your question is way out in left field there may not be anyone capable of answering it.

The forums are supposed to be helpful, which is part of why some experienced creators with 500+ posts are extremely caustic towards newbies. Nobody would be able to count on a productive answer to an unusual question if the forums were clogged with hundreds of posts asking the same common questions. Thus responses like REFG (Read ErMaC's F'ing Guide), RATBAG (Read All The Bloody AMV Guides), and all the suggestions to look at an existing thread, use the search function (on forums or the AMV database), or consult some other existing and canonical source. Thus the relentless flaming of spammers, crossposters, people who post in the wrong forum, people who post duplicate topics, etc.

It's not because people here hate n00bs (alright, some do, but mostly in jest), it's because people here are genuinely interested in the furtherance of the art and craft of AMV editing. If you read the guides instead of posting a frequently asked question, you'll get more info than you were looking for, and the forums will be less clogged when you have an unanswered question to ask.

hth,

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Postby vincentpricemil » Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:14 pm

I'd have to disagree with your comment. I remember Absolute Destiny when I had trouble w/ TMPGnc. I was screwing up the frame order in Premiere and didnt realize it. She was very helpful and didn't say "you newb!" once. I have had nothing but helpful comments from all the vet's here and hope I become just as helpful someday.
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Postby dokidoki » Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:39 pm

I saw this linked in the gamedev.net forums once: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

It's a little more oriented to computer/programming questions, but some of it applies.
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Postby Kusoyaro » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:16 pm

vincentpricemil wrote:I remember Absolute Destiny...She was very helpful and didn't say "you newb!" once

She sure was! She's helped me along every step of the way with my DVD-ripping problems.

And if I get too discouraged, she sends me naked pictures of herself. Now that's how I spell relief!

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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:23 pm

Kusoyaro wrote:
vincentpricemil wrote:I remember Absolute Destiny...She was very helpful and didn't say "you newb!" once

She sure was! She's helped me along every step of the way with my DVD-ripping problems.

And if I get too discouraged, she sends me naked pictures of herself. Now that's how I spell relief!


Actually, there is a girl on this site called "Absolute Destiny", but I've never seen her give technical help.

If vincent is actually referring to me, then I find it strange that people associate gender with avatars. I mean, Hsien isn't a big fiery ogre... well, except when he plays Master and Servant :P
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Postby Machine » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:29 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:I mean, Hsien isn't a big fiery ogre... well, except when he plays Master and Servant :P


Your right, he isn't a big fiery ogre
He looks more like a Flamer to me :P
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Postby RichLather » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:38 pm

AD: Yeah, I saw "she" and was wondering what else you were holding out on us.

It's not like I'm Bob Saget or anything, any less than I was an AV-98 Ingram... no wait, I was an Ingram!

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Postby Rozard » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:52 pm

Hey, I'm really Keitaro! :(
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Postby shinto » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:01 pm

Every time I post i say Oro! And i have the sudden urge to hold my toothbrush backwards! Hmmm...
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Postby Fluxmeister » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:05 pm

... and I am Tank Girl! 8)

Oh wait... no one believes who I am anyway... I am a flying elephant then, also.

As for people on the forum... ya know generalizations really help. I love statistics too. Nothing like 65% of white males will smoke crack and move into a trailer park... I am waiting for my ticket # to be called.

I prefer fighting people head-on as opposed to just "n00b's suck," especially since I don't even know how to classify a newbie really... I just don't care. I won't help a jerk... and I won't ask dumb questions. (maybe...)

If someone asks for my help I am usually very willing as I know that most people appreciate any help they can get. Basically... do unto others...

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