Attention AMV Creators: Someone might be selling your AMVs!

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Attention AMV Creators: Someone might be selling your AMVs!

Postby SephirothJenova » Sun Aug 25, 2002 11:55 pm

I was surfing on EBay.com and typed in the search for "Anime Music Videos." This is what I found:

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1557803261">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1557803261</a>

It seems as though someone is selling AMVs that do not belong to them at all! Not selling, auctioning off! I know that the second AMV from the bottom is AtomX's In The End video! I find this truly disturbing. I think that we should all get together an spam this guy's e-mail to death. Let's just fill it all the way up! He should be taught a lesson the hard way!

I also propose the creation of the AMV Police! Any creator/fan that sees someone distributing videos of another creator should tell the AMV Police. They will then contact the creator and create a plan to deal with the problem.

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Postby trythil » Mon Aug 26, 2002 12:17 am

In other news...
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Postby TekkaRepliroid Zero » Mon Aug 26, 2002 4:29 pm

"Do you want vengence, or a solution? This is something bigger than either of us have ever faced." ~ Xanatos

Proposal: At one of the larger cons - hey, AWA is coming up - someone draft up a form thingy, gather signatures and some contact info (real info, e-mail addresses don't count) of AMV Creators and send this off to EBay. Explain clearly that we are the only ones that really know what these things are about (because we make them) and that reports of AMVs on EBay should never be there, their removal from EBay should not be questioned or investigated, just removed automatically by EBay staff.

Something like that, just flush it out to full form ^_^. Emailing reports to EBay does JACK SQUAT if you're not on VeRo or whatever it is called. You'll have to do something like the above to be taken seriously.

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Postby BogoSort » Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:05 pm

I dunno, you can just email ebay and tell them that they are selling illegal copyrighted works. They are selling CDs with copyrighted music on them aren't they? That'll easily get eBay to boot off that particular auction. No need to get all uppity and say that you don't want them selling your work. Tis easier to just go with whatever works.
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Postby CArnesen » Mon Aug 26, 2002 7:48 pm

Unfortunitely, Ebay requires that only the registered copyright holder can request an auction be pulled.

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Postby MistyCaldwell » Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:12 pm

Are you sure? Last time this happened the two auctions that were reported here were ended early. They didn't ban the user or anything though.

Despite their rules, they have a large amount of HK dvd's selling all the time. I imagine they just look the other way on any copy righted anime goods because most of the HK sellers do a lot of business it looks like....some of them have 1000's of feedbacks.

As long as they get their money (seller fees) they don't care I guess....
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Postby Kusoyaro » Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:26 am

The name of this thread could be changed to "Attention AMV Creators: Someone is, has been, and always will be selling your AMVs!" without losing a shred of truth. Scumbags will be scumbags, there's little we can do about it. Like anime and music companies have really had much luck dealing with Son May and EverAnime.
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Postby NME » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:47 pm

exactly, pirates are the best people on earth. And they'll always be around to make people who make money off of something make less money. I think that made sense but I'm not sure.

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Postby NME » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:48 pm

On the topic of selling AMV's, i'm not really picky, if someone wants to sell my stuff, let them. its not like i'm making money off of it in the first place.
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Postby TekkaRepliroid Zero » Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:22 pm

NME wrote:i'm not really picky, if someone wants to sell my stuff, let them. its not like i'm making money off of it in the first place.


If you're not making money, why should the people selling them? That's the principle, not that it helps anything in the long run.
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Postby Gatsthedarksword » Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:52 pm

arent amvs flat out illegal, how can you make money off of them and i defintly think that if someone wants to use my amvs i would defintly want to be asked first.
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Postby trythil » Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:59 pm

Gatsthedarksword wrote:arent amvs flat out illegal, how can you make money off of them and i defintly think that if someone wants to use my amvs i would defintly want to be asked first.


Legally, yes, AMVs are in a state of limbo. They're good advertisement for the band and anime you use (well, assuming you do a good job), but they break many provisions of copyright law.

It's a good idea to stop AMV auctions if only for this reason. If the auctioneer gets caught, the line of legal retaliation could easily reach from the seller all the way back to the creator.
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Postby Rellik » Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:53 am

The important point here is that AMV´s are getting negative press if someone prints articles like : Illegal Anime Videos found on ebay!

We all (more or less) know that AMV´s are a form of advertising for the
involved parties. That is why they let it slip. Since nobody is making money of it, there is also no reason to sue since no lawyer would take on such a case. But when ppl use these works to gain money, that is when the copyright issue kicks in (and rightfully). Since DRM,Copyright and digital distribution in general is being disputed these days and the RIAA and MPAA
would like to see a world where we pay for fair use and their greed-inflated
buisiness plans, this is a very delicate matter. Therefore, we should find out about that person and try to communicate to him what damage he is doing to a LARGE community. Any Kevin Mitnicks here that want to help out?
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