Why is it that DBZ+Linkin Park is so widely used? (serious)

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Postby NeoGohan » Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:48 pm

Dark Kamui wrote:Another mind boggling thing is how listeners can somehow manage to ignore or neglect all the lyrics in Papa Roach and do Trunks/Last Resort AMVs when the song is in fact a suicide song; The guy stating that his life is shity and in order to get away from it all he must CUT his veins as his LAST RESORT.
It's obvious that fans only seem to hear "CUT" and "LAST RESORT". The leads me to wonder than in fact about %90 (if even more?) of all people dont really even pay attention to what they payed to listen to! @_@


Heh.. Im guessing Im the cause of that piece of crap. There really wasnt a reason behind it... it was just back when I downloaded clips and I heard "cut", and just happened to be downloading clips of Trunks Vs Freeza where he uses his sword. Kinda went from there.. @_@

Though the more surprising thing is this.. while I despise that video and wish it to hell, alot of people love it. I cant understand why, but people seem to think its a decent video. Therein lies another problem... not only is the creator stupid for making it, but you have to wonder about the people who actually enjoy it.
I think they both have the same mentality. "Cool + cool = uber cool". My experience with showing videos to friends at school is that they always comment on the clips used. They're more or less like.. "wow, that was a cool scene from movie 13... this video is great", and they ignore any sort of relation between audio and video. They just want cool clips and a popular song.. and theyre happy.

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Postby Wonka » Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:56 pm

Neo, the ever tormented artist ;)

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Postby OrionPro001 » Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:29 pm

Alright I'll add in my two cents:

First off, I have SWORN to NEVER make a Dragonball - Z + Linkin Park AMV. Why? Because the ones that I HAVE seen just plain S-U-C-K compared to other AMV's that are out there. Also, and I really hate to say it, but it is a "mainstream" in the AMV community, and I don't like to associate with mainstream. (Although my GF wouldn't mind seein' me make one, as she likes both DBZ and LP. (In fact, DBZ is all that she ever gets where she lives. -_-)).

I already know I'm a total newbie to AMV making, but my first AMV was NOT a DBZ + LP AMV!!! It was a Darkstalker + Rob Zombie - Living Dead Girl (Remix)!!! So not ALL newbie's make DBZ + LP AMV's on their first time!!! That was so stereotypical there and completely wrong!

I personally believe that people make the DBZ + LP AMV's is because of these reasons:
  1. That's all they are able to get.
  2. That's all they know.
  3. They have no taste & think that DBZ & LP are the only real way for AMV's.
  4. They have no creative energy and want to copy something that they've already seen.

And to me, only the first point up in that list is forgivable. Other than that... I personally think that they need to get slapped up across the head and let them be known that there is WAY more better anime's out there!!

Oh... and if I have offended any fan-boys... GOOD!!
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Postby TobinHood » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:12 am

This isn't only true to DBZ videos

Linkin Park are very popular so of course many people hear their music. Some not even really knowing much about AMVs yet do not have to be Dragonball Z fans because Linkin Park's lyrics are very simple and easy for newbies to work with. Linkin Park have many chords and beats in their songs as well leaving it open for experimentation. But it is mainly because their lyrics are so simple they can match almost any anime. Most newbies just have access to DBZ or do not know any other real animes during this particular point of entering the anime world, and that's why this occurs so often.

I myself am a huge Linkin Park fan but if I ever make a video to them I will kick myself in the balls.............. really hard. >.<

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Postby OrionPro001 » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:29 am

Personally I am a Bush, SOAD, and Rob Zombie fan...

There is only 1 song of Linkin Park that I LIKE and I've already done my 2nd AMV to it (used SFA to it, NOT DBZ.).
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Postby Dark Kamui » Tue Jul 02, 2002 8:58 am

*Bah, my first AMV ever was made with Sonic Anime Webclips and Japanese Comercials* -_-

BTW, none of the 5 "Last Resort" vids that I downloaded were made by you NeoGohan. *L*

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Here's something you should check...

Postby OmniStrata » Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:17 am

"Snow Covered Dreams"

It's Linkin' Park's song, "My December" to the Rurouni Kenshin OAVs...

GET IT!

I'm posting this since it's linkin' park based.

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Postby SpPANDA » Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:02 am

but but... some linkin park amvs actually win cons.

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Postby MeriC » Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:21 am

SpPANDA wrote:but but... some linkin park amvs actually win cons.


The one I can think of is the Trigun "In the End" video from last year's Otakon. That one was very nice, and kinda got me misty eyed.

I dunno what other LP videos have won at cons...
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Postby Supavegitto » Tue Jul 02, 2002 11:41 am

To each his own, if that's what people want to see, oh well :?

I guess the new generation of fans got messed up from watching those od awful dubs and whatnot, or that most people are stupid, take your pick

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Postby nailz » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:03 pm

[quote="OrionPro001"]...Also, and I really hate to say it, but it is a "mainstream" in the AMV community, and I don't like to associate with mainstream.... quote]

Isn't it ironic that rebellion has become so popular?
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Postby nailz » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:04 pm

goddamn it! why cant we edit our posts?
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Postby paizuri » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:42 pm

nailz1000 wrote:
OrionPro001 wrote:...Also, and I really hate to say it, but it is a "mainstream" in the AMV community, and I don't like to associate with mainstream....

Isn't it ironic that rebellion has become so popular?


But isn't it? There are two types of poseurs in the world. There's the kind that likes something because it is popular and everyone else (or at least the vast majority) likes them. Then there's the kind that doesn't like something merely because everyone else seems to like them. If you like (or dislike) something, please do so because you personally do (or do not) like them. Basing your opinions merely on the influence of others is what being a poseur is all about.

As for Linkin Park and Dragonball Z, it just so happens that they are 2 very popular things at the moment. Thus, it's not hard to make an LP + DBZ connection in AMVs. There are quite a few LP videos to other shows and plenty of DBZ videos to other groups too. Give it some time and I'm sure the popularity of both will fade (although I'm betting DBZ will outlast LP by a good long while).

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Postby Castor Troy » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:50 pm

I'm betting DBZ will outlast LP by a good long while).


DBZ's final episodes are gonna run this fall but then Dragon ball and GT will take it's place.
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Postby nailz » Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:56 pm

I'm sure he didn't mean on cartoon network. When's the last time you saw linkin park on tv? =p
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