I've been out of the community since really 2007 I guess. So I can only work with what I've noticed outside the site, hobby, and cons in that period of time.
2009 and prior, new editors I was talking to on other sites didn't want to join the .org because we were 'elitists'.
2009 to now, I've noticed a huge surge in youtube AMV "communities" (channels). Best amvs of all time being one of them. And those channels, all the videos look super nice, and use new anime and upbeat music. And they're all (generally) less than 3 minutes long, heavily composited, and have tons of action scenes and/or flashy images.
I've been getting into some of the non-anime vidding community (as a watcher) as well, and the same thing is in there: Pretty source, popular footage, ADD cutting. These are the ones that are regarded as "really good" anyway. But you what it's lacking? Plot. There's no story in these videos. It's just showing off pretty shit.
So whether this is good editing or not, it's fun to watch, and that's apparently what the viewers want to see.
I liked the .org because while some of the most popular videos were flashy, overall most editors likes story telling more. I think because of this, among other reasons, was why we ultimately died.
Things other people mentioned were the lack of communication between people. I think the .org has sucked at this from the beginning. No comments on journals, no comments on videos, the comments we finally did get on vids are anonymous and only for locally hosted videos. Opinions you can only get one response and then, then you can only show 2 opinions to other people?? WHY?
Why wouldn't you want to share/see what other people have said?
The bottom line is, .org has made it so you have to jump through hurdles just to connect with people outside the forum. I mean the day we got our forum posts to link to our amv profile pages should not have taken so long...
I think now, new users aren't joining and people aren't contributing because:
- the .org is old and not shiny
- people are lazy and the .org interface has a high learning curve
- nobody uses forums anymore
- .org has no huge viewership, it is only a catalog
- there is a "not good enough" feeling to submitting things here. Once it's here, it's here forever, and that can be a lot of pressure.
- no instant gratification.... On anything.
Furthermore, Arigatomina... You gave me so many really lengthy opinions. I loved your opinions! I used to give long opinions too, but they weren't as positive as yours. Definitely the reason I stopped doing it is because nobody talks anymore. And even if they did respond, what were the chances the editor would feature your op publicly? Slim to none.
What is the point.
I think the redesign would help. Not solve anything, but help. But moreso I don't think we need a redesign anymore. I think we just need to realize the old .org is not what people want and we should start over. If we have to pay someone to do that, so be it.
We all got together to make the donut happen. I don't see why we all couldn't come together to hire a developer. A lot of the oldbies are still here, they just lurk.
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