AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby FarmXD » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:19 am

Thanks for the support guys.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby seasons » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:24 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:If you want more comments either:
(a) Make lots of friends that are active on the org
or
(b) Make amazingly epic videos that people won't ignore


are you serious
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby l33tmeatwad » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:43 pm

seasons wrote:
l33tmeatwad wrote:If you want more comments either:
(a) Make lots of friends that are active on the org
or
(b) Make amazingly epic videos that people won't ignore


are you serious

Yup, what about that doesn't sound serious?
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby seasons » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:56 pm

Because I don't know you and can't tell if you're joking or not.

There's no way to make friends with any of the people here who are stuck in their cliques. This has been the case since the late 00s.

People will ignore any new video, even if it's "amazingly epic,"* if it's not made by someone who's established here. Besides, the idea that you're not deserving of anyone's attention here unless you put in hundreds of hours on something professional-looking is laughably elitist, like you have to make a masterpiece before you're even deserving of being acknowledged with a quick comment that takes 5 seconds to write, let alone an actual opinion from someone.

Or did we trash the idea of the Org as a nurturing ground/valuable resource for new editors and I never got the memo?

* The idea that everything needs to be "amazingly epic" is one of the biggest problems with this hobby in 2013.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby Ileia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:04 pm

seasons wrote:There's no way to make friends with any of the people here who are stuck in their cliques. This has been the case since the late 00s.


The Org has always been too much of a revolving door for this to be the case. Plus, well, how do you think they made friends in the first place? By interacting with each other here.

As for the rest, while it would be ideal, we don't really have enough activity to perpetuate that sort of environment. There's only a handful of people commenting and it can become tiresome to keep it up all the time, rather than just on specific videos. It's not required that you have an "amazingly epic" video, but I think that point is just that it's an advantage when it comes to garnering attention for your video.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby Begi » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:45 pm

Lol. I love how we're still talking about this site.

I don't think that the forums are much of the problem as much as I feel that exposure of the actual videos being released is the problem. The only way to expose your video on this site is to post a topic in the AMV Announcements forum, and that's what I feel is a huge problem. Relying on that forum for people to find videos is ludicrous. I think some sort of window should be present on the main page that shows previews of the most recently uploaded videos. But once again, that's another topic....

I think an issue with AMV editing nowadays is that editors feel there are some sort of specific standards by which they need to edit, and that makes for dullness and a bunch of videos that look the same. We don't have much variety anymore to be honest. It's like editors are trying to edit a "technically good" AMV with no sort of artistic expression.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:24 am

seasons wrote:Because I don't know you and can't tell if you're joking or not.
Hi, I'm l33tmeatwad and I joke a lot... :lol:

seasons wrote:There's no way to make friends with any of the people here who are stuck in their cliques. This has been the case since the late 00s.
When did I say you had to make friends who are CURRENTLY active on the org? My friends and studio mates were not super active on the org when I first met them and now they are very active. The key is to become friends with those that you click with and just have a good time!

(NOTE: Cliques are not exclusive to the org....EVERY ONLINE COMMUNITY HAS THEM!)

seasons wrote:People will ignore any new video, even if it's "amazingly epic,"* if it's not made by someone who's established here. Besides, the idea that you're not deserving of anyone's attention here unless you put in hundreds of hours on something professional-looking is laughably elitist, like you have to make a masterpiece before you're even deserving of being acknowledged with a quick comment that takes 5 seconds to write, let alone an actual opinion from someone.

Or did we trash the idea of the Org as a nurturing ground/valuable resource for new editors and I never got the memo?

* The idea that everything needs to be "amazingly epic" is one of the biggest problems with this hobby in 2013.
That's an idea in your head, make a video like PencilHead, Fate Matrix, or Lip Bomb and it won't be ignored (and before you say "well those are all popular editors", keep in mind no one knew who Shin-AMV & GuntherAMVs were before that year). If you're really concerned about being popular or having popular videos then evaluate your audience, target your videos towards them, and then market you video by getting it out to conventions (etc). I'm tired of people saying the org doesn't pay attention to good videos, there are too many posted to watch them all and everyone thinks we all have time to watch them all and take special note of "generic drama video A" or "random action mix B" and call it the most epic thing ever when it's not. I myself have made videos not many people liked and also ones that a lot of people liked, but I don't blame them for not liking a video I made for myself that I personally enjoy. I also don't make excuses that they just don't "get it," because the truth is if they don't get it then I wasn't doing my job at conveying the message of the video.

Side note, feel free to drop me a message on Skype anytime if you want comments or help with technical stuff. I may not always comment on release threads, but I do interact with a lot of org members on Skype and many of them have group chats on there they participate in to get to know one another.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby ngsilver » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:16 am

l33tmeatwad wrote:there are too many posted to watch them all

well... and not be driven crazy by it :twisted:

/me goes back to raping the last month's worth of announced vids.....
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby TritioAFB » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:32 am

It's funny that we now talk about the amount of comments considering that ina thread with 8 or more comments, if you take the time to read the comments, you'll notice that 2 or 3 comments are from the same person, and some spam it's noticeable
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:28 am

ngsilver wrote:
l33tmeatwad wrote:there are too many posted to watch them all

well... and not be driven crazy by it :twisted:

/me goes back to raping the last month's worth of announced vids.....
You don't count because I'm pretty sure you're not human considering the amount you download, watch, and stream, lol...
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby ngsilver » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:You don't count because I'm pretty sure you're not human considering the amount you download, watch, and stream, lol...

Well, I also don't say I'm able to watch them all before their threads get locked. Far too often I find a really great video I love and can't make a proper comment because of this. (I openly hate QCs and the current star scale, and what I have to say usually isn't worth an op)
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby The Non-Professional » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:06 am

This thread makes me sad :(
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby Arigatomina » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:22 am

seasons wrote:There's no way to make friends with any of the people here who are stuck in their cliques.

So make friends somewhere else and bring them to the org with you. Upload your vids and then write each other ops and qcs. Post in each other's announcement threads so the forum regulars see that you're active, which is automatically interesting. Once you've got them reading your threads it's only a matter of time before some bored individuals start posting in them as well. Forget joining an established clique. Make your own and lure members of mostly-dead cliques to wander your way. Or just forget the existing cliques and take advantage of the setup here. Free hosting, no tube take-downs, feedback system already in place so you could easily get to the top lists with just a few friends to give you ops, a forum full of any information you might want to know about editing software and techniques, and a quick source for convention info if that appeals to you, and tons of threads with all sorts of interesting discussions and amv history that you and your friends might want to discuss yourselves in your journals. You don't have to "join" the org in order to make it your own. You just have to use it.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby CastielTheFallen » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:20 pm

Arigatomina wrote:
seasons wrote:There's no way to make friends with any of the people here who are stuck in their cliques.

I call shenanigans. DZ click is the most open group of people who hang around here I know. It's easy to make friends with any and all of us. If you make the effort, you can make a lot of friends around here not just from DZ as well. A lot of the DZ "Clique" are friends with the other apparent cliques around here. I think it's more an issue that people just expect friendship to happen out of nowhere with no effort on their part for a friendship to be created.
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Re: AMV Editing: A dying hobby (?)

Postby CastielTheFallen » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:21 pm

fucked that quote up but whatevs, you get the point.
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