Kionon wrote:we are not doing anything wrong.
Kevmaster wrote:Chained(E)Studio wrote:where people can download the AMV, rip the music from it or even cut the footage up to make their own AMVs without purchasing the work.
It never even once occured to me that anyone would do that. It's not making sense to me. It's much easier to type what you search for in google and click one of the first few links that appear to download the source. And I think that's rather what people would do who'd take the step to download illegally. (Common sense and all) Rather than getting yourself a converter, taking the time to cut off credits audio for example. And in many cases nowadays you don't even get the original song but an edit or even short as hell version. On top of that, of course you'll end up with a bad quality re-encode. The same is about the video source but then you'll never even get the full from an amv. And if you were to get your sources to edit amv's from other amv's...then...what the hell is wrong with you? (This is a no-go in the community anyway as far as I am concerned).
I think it rather is the opposite. We encourage people with our work to may get interested into the anime or music source making them buy these. (I did buy quite a lot because I found it to be interesting in amv's I saw)
MimS wrote:Why the hell are you talking about my moral? ._.
We ourselves to me are just helping others or aiding in illegal acts and taking the rights of owners away which companies are fighting desperately for.
Let's put it simply : I buy animes, I just can't buy them ALL. I love having them, wanna got them all, I just CAN'T, so yeah, it happens I edit animes I don't own, it doesn't mean I have no respect for the author, it just means I don't respect the law and well, these 2 things are clearly different. If I could own every animes I would more than happy.
By the way, even if I do buy animes, I still download them because I don't buy them to "watch" them but because I love them, they're great and I want them as a part of my collection, I don't even open the box unless there are really interesting bonuses in them ._.
Or maybe you want a link to my collection to convince you?
And, not even considering my case, put a lot of french editor in "your editors with no-moral" list 'cause, believe me, most of them don't really give a fuck about animes and, compared to them, I really, really, don't feel guilty at all
Kionon wrote:Chained(E)Studio wrote:We ourselves to me are just helping others or aiding in illegal acts and taking the rights of owners away which companies are fighting desperately for.
I strongly, strongly disagree with this conclusion, and most likely the premises used to construct it. However, if I accept that at least for Chained, there is a violation of ethical standards or laws, then I must inquire as to why Chained still persists. If the answer is, "because I don't care" there is no point in discussing the issue further.
Emong wrote:It makes sense if you're against privatization/commodification/commercialization of common culture and support other means to finance and distribute stuff like music, movies or anime.
I'm not entirely familiar with the legal issues regarding AMVs but applying the fair use category to AMVs sounds, at least intuitively, a bit vague for me too, even if we're not making profit or anything.
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