The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by ngsilver » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:44 pm

Another good read. Thanks again Code for doing this. I also approve of getting these interviews up on the main site :up: :up:
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by ReggieSmalls » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:33 am

That was a good interview man.
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Post by Koopiskeva » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:42 am

This was good. I also interviewed Scott once, in bed.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by JudgeHolden » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 am

Koopiskeva wrote:This was good. I also interviewed Scott once, in bed.
I remember that ... Putting the microphone inside the strap-on was rather clever. |:>

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by TEKnician » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:02 pm

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by Pwolf » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:49 pm

l33tmeatwad wrote:It may be just me, but I don't think there is a shift in the way the community thinks about competition and everyone going after wins...
It may not be all about winning but there's definitely a negative competitive attitude I see. The perfect example is that of Ileia. A great editor but takes a lot of shit from people no mater what contest she participates in. There's an attitude of "I MUST DESTROY HER AND IF I DO I AM AWESOME!" that a lot of people seem to have. If not that, then worse. CDVV (her studio) gets a lot of crap for being good and winning contests, so much to the point that people have accused them of cheating without any facts or evidence to back it up. Seriously people? And it's not just her. There are plenty of other editors out there that get the same treatment. The sad truth is, this attitude is pushing these people away from the org. We've already seen a number of them leave and other's have thought about, myself included.
l33tmeatwad wrote:but more of a change in the mindset of the newbies. I think there is an extra layer of intimidation due to the fact that videos use more special effects and are way more impressive looking these days. I'm not sure how many times I've heard newbies comment that they wanted to make a video but they didn't think they could do impressive special effects.
Honestly, this has always been around. New editors have always had high expectations and big goals, some of them not really ready to tackle them. If anything, the only change has been is what the goal was. Back in the day it might have been as simple as preparing one's source correctly (the tools and information weren't available) and now it could be advanced special effects. And it really doesn't matter. As a community we should be willing to help and assist those who truly want it. But also, as a community, we should be more supportive of our fellow editors so they feel welcome and comfortable enough to ask for help in the first place
Centurione wrote:I've been interested in making AMVs for about 3 years now and, you see, I've also known a-m-v.org site since, but was unable to join and become active then. It felt more like a place only for professionals, contests, some super advanced stuff.
And as Code said, we aren't all about professionals, contests, and super advanced stuff but that's what we've started to become over the years and what I'm describing above.
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CodeZTM wrote:Q: Any plans on expanding the app to other platforms?

A: I've got the two big ones done already so all that's left is Windows Phone 7.
Wait, what about BlackBerry OS?
I hope you're being sarcastic but either way, I lol'd.

Anyway, I thought I should throw in an extra two cents there. I think these interviews are great and it would be cool if they got the home page treatment.

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by Castor Troy » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:24 pm

Pwolf wrote: It may not be all about winning but there's definitely a negative competitive attitude I see. The perfect example is that of Ileia. A great editor but takes a lot of shit from people no mater what contest she participates in. There's an attitude of "I MUST DESTROY HER AND IF I DO I AM AWESOME!" that a lot of people seem to have. If not that, then worse. CDVV (her studio) gets a lot of crap for being good and winning contests, so much to the point that people have accused them of cheating without any facts or evidence to back it up. Seriously people? And it's not just her. There are plenty of other editors out there that get the same treatment. The sad truth is, this attitude is pushing these people away from the org. We've already seen a number of them leave and other's have thought about, myself included.
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The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by ngsilver » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:47 pm

Pwolf wrote:It may not be all about winning but there's definitely a negative competitive attitude I see. The perfect example is that of Ileia. A great editor but takes a lot of shit from people no mater what contest she participates in. There's an attitude of "I MUST DESTROY HER AND IF I DO I AM AWESOME!" that a lot of people seem to have. If not that, then worse. CDVV (her studio) gets a lot of crap for being good and winning contests, so much to the point that people have accused them of cheating without any facts or evidence to back it up. Seriously people? And it's not just her. There are plenty of other editors out there that get the same treatment. The sad truth is, this attitude is pushing these people away from the org. We've already seen a number of them leave and other's have thought about, myself included.
This isn't actually just an org thing either. Compbros has spoken in length with me about how much hate he gets on YouTube from people when he wins awards at cons. It really is such bad form and I don't see where it is all coming from. Didn't people learn to be gracious winners and losers? Competition is fine but when it gets to that point it kind of looses the meaning of competition.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by TEKnician » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:33 pm

People who wrote:"I MUST DESTROY HER AND IF I DO I AM AWESOME!"
Uh, yeah. Good luck with that :roll:

I know for a fact that I'll never make comparable videos to some of the pros here, but that doesn't drive me to make better videos. I make better videos to make myself feel better, OR just for lolz. Hey, if I become a pro at making them, then whoop-da-diddley-deedoo! I won't care unless someone comes and SAYS my video is crap, not if they make my video look like crap by comparison. Hell, even if you say my video is crap, i won't really give a crap anyways. I'll still make crap.

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Episode 2 : Pwolf

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Well... If it makes anyone feel better this is nothing new.

Even in the early 2000s there was a lot of resentment when a handful of editors dominated the winners circle at cons. This is human nature in competitions and is seen everywhere and not just AMV contests.

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