Thanks for the folks who've responded seriously. For the rest, "Eh." If I didn't have thick enough skin to take a little snark, I should stay off the internet, right?
To respond to a few individual points:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:You do realize you're posting this question on a website that has been vilified as a haven for mean-spirited, elitist snobs because, unlike youtube, those of us dedicated to the hobby enough to post here actually hold feedback and critique in the highest regard.
You need to take a look at where you are. This isn't youtube...
...your post shows an almost hilarious level of ignorance of the situation. This is all, quite literally, preaching to the choir.
Ha, ha... no, I actually had no idea. I've never been here before. That is hilarious.
Fall_Child42 wrote:That sure is a whole lot of words to ask
"Why do some people take criticism poorly?"
Not quite what I asked, though. I asked about my own personal perception that there seemed to be a slightly higher incidence of that behaviour amoung AMV creators, compared to other fan-based artwork.
Could be lots of reasons for that. I don't associate with the anime fanbase beyond AN, so... maybe AN attracts a higher proportion of the thin-skinned ones. Beats me, but having evidently ticked off yet another one, I thought I'd ask in a place it made more sense to ask. We've had this discussion on AN, and I haven't really gotten anywhere with it. AN prefers strong criticism to bland flattery, so we scare off the ones I'm talking about, frankly.
Prodigi wrote:Fan-fiction writers for the most part seem to write romanticized trash and slash fic that requires no imagination or ability.
Actually, I'm going to agree with you on that one.
Prodigi wrote:You see what I did there? I took a small sample of my own experience with both editing and fan fiction writers and extrapolated it as a whole. Can you now see how what you've written could be interpreted in the same way by us? Yes, obviously you've had some bad experiences with editors not taking criticism. You know what you do then? Don't talk to them.
I typically don't
, once they've had the inevitable meltdown, obviously. I'm trying to get at the heart of that seemingly self-induced meltdown.
Prodigi wrote:Okay, so you don't indicate them by name, but it still appears you're going out of your way to enforce your own opinion on someone else who clearly doesn't want to hear it. After they deleted the initial thread, unhappy with your feedback, you felt it necessary to follow onto their youtube channel and make similar comments there?
Um, no - never made a critical comment at that point, as I said. It is a pet peeve of mine when someone deletes feedback they asked me to post (even after being warned it would be honest), so all I posted was "Next time, don't ask for honest feedback if you're not willing to accept it." I signed my name so they'd know who it was. Nothing snarky.
Prodigi wrote:Yes, I realise I'm taking this quote out of context and that you did make some valid points before it, I acknowledge that.
The context before that established what I meant by "eh." It was forgettable not because it was bad
, but because it was so similar to the ocean of similar "pile of clips I like plus a song I like" AMVs out there that it was indistinguishable. The comments before that involved what I perceived as a lack of actual expression
in the work beyond that. It's that expression that distinguishes a creative work. Absent that, my reaction was "eh", which is how I summed it up in case he didn't want to read the rest. I wouldn't have just said it on its own, and yes, I agree that to do so would have been unconstructive. But I think giving it as an intitial reaction/summary opinion is constructive, as it sums up the non-critical reaction the piece is likely to receive.
Prodigi wrote:Now if you read my response and think "well your own reply can be used against you because you've just done the exact same thing to me" well that's the point.
Nah, that's not what I thought at all. I'm just happy someone took the time to write a well-thought-out reply. Thanks! And props for the Gene Wilder reference.
Warlike Swans wrote:I hope you do value critiques as much as you claim to because your writing could use work.
My online forum rant style isn't indicative of my professional writing style, which is true for most authors, I think. I can post a copy of something I posted over at AN, if you like. Fair's fair.
Let's see... What the heck... Christmas is coming up anyway:http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=210888
Feel free to tear me a new one.
Well, gotta run. I'll check back later. Thanks again, all!