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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby TEKnician » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:06 pm

i dunno, scaling 480 down to 400 seems like a LOT, but apparently it's okay. Guess it just looks small on my 27" iMac.

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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:21 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:i dunno, scaling 480 down to 400 seems like a LOT, but apparently it's okay. Guess it just looks small on my 27" iMac.

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP Phantasmagoriat!
No problem. You'll also want to crop off any tiny black borders along the edges first, so if you use crop(8,0,-8,-0), you would be using 704 instead of 720 for width. I also want to make it clear that what I've said are just general guidelines not set in stone. You don't have to be too afraid when altering the height or width. On the contrary, it could act as a cleaning step, so just use whatever dimensions you want as long as width/height~=1.7777 (for 16:9 footage). Down-scaling the height might bit much if you are really concerned about quality, but the other option besides (anamorphic encoding) is to do a minor upscale to ~848x480, which is what a lot of people do. Hell, if you have the time/space, you might as well do it. It'll also make the '480p' option appear on YouTube. Just be mindful of the difference in amount of data that needs to be processed 704*396=278784px vs 848*480=407040px (~46% more pixels to encode/decode/store), and you don't exactly gain much. Like, personally I doubt I'm gonna watch your AMV and say to myself: "wow, look at that crappy 396p footage... it would look sooo much better at 480p!" 720p maybe, but at that point, I'm watching your AMV, not looking at quality, so I'll let you decide what's important.
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby TEKnician » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:29 pm

OMFG...Final cut keeps altering my imported footage to 720x480 because it can't recognize 720x400! DAMMIT!

Okay, how about this: 853x480 anamorphic. 853/480=1.777. It seems to work fine when i send it to FCPX.

Would I be too picky if i said i wanted ALL my footage to be 853x480 too? Even my Eureka Seven DVDs which are 4:3? lets say i resized my E7 DVDs to match 16:9, if they are the same AR but not the same height/width, would a minor difference in size affect the project as a whole?

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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:36 pm

So far I have used only a few ARs - 848x480 being the most used one, but I also used 640x480, 1280x720 and for fun some 2,37:1 (1280x540 and 848x360)
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:36 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:OMFG...Final cut keeps altering my imported footage to 720x480 because it can't recognize 720x400! DAMMIT!
A lot of NLE's will try to automatically adjust your footage to meet DVD standards, especially since most people capture their footage using a camera intended for DVD output. I hate it when programs try to automate things for me :|. Unless FC has an option to manually input your Resolution and Aspect Ratio, you may be stuck with the project-templates it provides. But I'm not a FC user, so IDK.


Okay, how about this: 853x480 anamorphic. 853/480=1.777. It seems to work fine when i send it to FCPX.
I would consider trying 848x480 if you can, simply because certain programs, filters, and encoding techniques later may require pixel-divisibility by 8, or at least 4. In computing, the 'magic' numbers are any exponential values of 2, like 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64. The higher the value, the more compatible/efficient, which is the reasoning behind mod16. However, if 853 works, I guess that's the most important thing. You can always crop/resize your final AMV later. Just try to be aware of any black borders it may add; or resizing FC does to your footage. One of the biggest causes of quality loss is when an NLE alters your footage somehow without you knowing. The best results are always achieved when your footage passes straight through your NLE.


Would I be too picky if i said i wanted ALL my footage to be 853x480 too? Even my Eureka Seven DVDs which are 4:3? lets say i resized my E7 DVDs to match 16:9, if they are the same AR but not the same height/width, would a minor difference in size affect the project as a whole?
I don't really see the point in resizing a 4:3 source to 853x480. Everything would look stretched horizontally, unless you flagged or resized it afterwards. There are 3 main ways to make 4:3 footage 16:9: Resizing to "Fit" 853x480 (in this case, 640x480). Cropping off the top/bottom and scaling up the result to match your resolution, or adding pillarboxes to the sized. You may find the pictures in my BestFit() function useful to understand what I mean. Just go to the the pictures labeled [FULLSCREEN SOURCE]:
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:10 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:Would I be too picky if i said i wanted ALL my footage to be 853x480 too? Even my Eureka Seven DVDs which are 4:3? lets say i resized my E7 DVDs to match 16:9, if they are the same AR but not the same height/width, would a minor difference in size affect the project as a whole?

Yes. There's no reason to, really, if they were "made" in different resolutions. It's a bit like having a circle and a square and want to save them both in a same shape. At least one of them will be distorted or cropped (or worse, both of them).
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby outlawed » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:47 pm

Funimation says to just upscale everything to 1080p =p
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby TEKnician » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:41 pm

I mean no disrespect, but earlier, i mentioned that i cant avisynth on my iMac because of Lion 10.7.1's software incompatibility issue. I REEEEEAALLY DONT WANNA RUN PARALLELS. Crossover and Wine don't work either.
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:00 pm

Oh, sorry my bad. I didn't notice you were a Mac user. I guess you're stuck using whatever settings FC lets you use. In this case leaving it at 720x480 and flagging it with the correct AR might not be such a bad choice. Just be careful that any effects/text you add don't get warped by the stretching of your footage.
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Qyot27 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:49 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:I mean no disrespect, but earlier, i mentioned that i cant avisynth on my iMac because of Lion 10.7.1's software incompatibility issue. I REEEEEAALLY DONT WANNA RUN PARALLELS. Crossover and Wine don't work either.

Did you try the MacPorts solution?
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby gotenks794 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:49 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:I mean no disrespect, but earlier, i mentioned that i cant avisynth on my iMac because of Lion 10.7.1's software incompatibility issue. I REEEEEAALLY DONT WANNA RUN PARALLELS. Crossover and Wine don't work either.


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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:44 am

Buy a PC.

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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby TEKnician » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:11 am

Phantasmagoriat wrote:In this case leaving it at 720x480 and flagging it with the correct AR might not be such a bad choice

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Nya-chan Production wrote:Buy a PC.

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gotenks794 wrote:I gave you a wonderful solution.. have you tried it?

Notice my post in Kionon's guide from May 2010.

You see my dilemma? I can neither use Avisynth, nor Avidemux (properly according to the guide). I have experimented with many things before, but right now, Handbrake is giving me the closest thing to clean footage that I can get. Heres a 853x480 screenshot of my Canaan DVDs i converted using HB:

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Thats just a quick pause. During playback, i really can't see much of the excess pixels in her hair. So i guess for now, this'll do. 853x480 seems to work even when i did a test edit with FX and text in FCPX and the AR is still 16:9 (1.777). Well i guess now I have a unique resolution! So if you see a video thats 853x480, thats me!

BTW, has anyone heard of that Toast Titanium Pro Software by Roxio? My curiosity has been piqued by it... :book:
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:47 am

No, seriously, what's the point in editing in something that doesn't give you an option to define your quality and AR? |:
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Re: WHATS YOUR PREFERRED RESOLUTION?

Postby TEKnician » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:04 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:No, seriously, what's the point in editing in something that doesn't give you an option to define your quality and AR? |:

I miss FCP7...

I guess the biggest reason why i'm using FCPX is because i got it for free, so i'm using this for the time being. I'm thinking of going with Adobe Premiere Pro (APP).

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