Amv collector!

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Amv collector!

Postby KittenishAgate » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:29 am

Hey everyone.

I made this topic for everyone to see as in to discuss my goal and if anyone wants to partecipate.

As you all might know finding good amvs now times is really hard specially for some nations,countys or islands that don't know such sites as http://www.animemusicvideos.org but even if they do know the site its not that easy to find the best amv's out there and finding amv's also means finding animes which haven't been watched yet.

So i thought to start collecting them to one place almost everyone knows about, http://www.youtube.com/ And soon enough on my own website which will be done in about a year or so, step by step thought not in a hurry or anything.

Why i thought of all this? Simply cause it just happens that i live in such an island called cyprus which anime just started to get popular and since anime isnt popular amv is definitely not the word down here yet. (Which is really sad, i could count the comic book stores up to 5 in all of cyprus, which one of them is ant comics and you can find it in http://otakucy.com/ )

So if anyone likes the idea please comment bellow (Do not be harsh on the comments this is nothing but an idea i thought of to help out amv and anime get known in cyprus and anywhere else) and if anyone has an addition of amv's that he would want to add up please pm me your video ,personal info as in who made the video etc and what so ever info you would like to add on your video.

Note: Videos that will be add up will have all the info they need so who ever watches them knowns both who made them and where to find them so no copyrights will be harm.

Thanks for your time
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:24 am

Collecting videos on YouTube won't survive long - trust me, many of us here have gone through that.

I think spreading the word about the Org helps a bit more than what you're trying to do ;x
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby KittenishAgate » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:41 am

As i explained before that is just a start, or merely to get known by peepz. Starting this year my studys are finally about to start (lost 2 years of my life serving in the military) so i got delayed on my studies as a result. So thing is start up a youtube channel and in animemusicvideos since this channel is well known cant stop hearing about you guys in here ;p and finally when i get a succesful amount of peepz and videos will continue my work in a website a friend and i will make ( which i will ask then the cooperation of many sites such as otakucy.com which i mentioned before and even animemusicvideos if im really lucky!

And by making all this effort will help a great deal of spreading the word about the Org and not only wont you agree?
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:02 pm

youtube is known for deleting accounts for copyright infringement - this is why it probably won't last long.
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby KittenishAgate » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:45 am

I never saw a studio made amv be deleted for copyright reasons , and if they are deleted already said that youtbe is a temporary solution.
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby Nya-chan Production » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:32 am

I'll point you here, then: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=105256

You can defend, but it's not universal ^^;;
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby KittenishAgate » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:08 am

Saw the post and am fully aware of youtubes fail, altho it is indeed copyright of the song track etc nothing we can do about it.

But not all amv's copyrights are been deleted, If you just dont add the name of the song at either the videos name or tags they wont find out about it been used. That's what i thought since ive never seen a copyright been added at anime scenes been used
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby Nya-chan Production » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:42 am

That's not true. Companies have their people going through the stuff (for example Ghibli has pretty good results on taking down their videos) and YouTube compares every audio uploaded to their database.

Writing down tags just makes this easier for them, but even without those it's not as it won't be taken down.
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby HalOfBorg » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:54 am

Quite right - my latest video (Aniworse) got kicked the moment I ULd it - with no tags, due to music in credits. So I ULd version with no credits (or tags again) - and it was kicked right away due to music in the video. So I tried dailymotion and they took the full version. So far.
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby KittenishAgate » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:24 pm

Well im glad i don't got such problems then.

Uploaded my newest amv and didnt get even one copyright complain. Not even the warning they give you in each video

"Your video may include content that is owned or administered by these entities:" This piece of art if i way >.>..
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby HalOfBorg » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:04 am

It's about 50/50 for the ones of mine that get in OK. Some have those notices, some not. I like the ones with the links to the song artist - everyone's happy this way.
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby AceD » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:00 am

KittenishAgate wrote:I never saw a studio made amv be deleted for copyright reasons , and if they are deleted already said that youtbe is a temporary solution.
AMVs are nearly always deleted by companies linked to the anime, Sony Music Japan is the main one (they don't because of music though, they claim visual content, IE Bakemonogatari videos, even though their only involved in the theme song)

anyway, what your suggesting about storing the best amvs on youtube, sounds familiar :lol: , theres a lot of people that already do it, just there's only 3 people with big channels and the other xx amount are small
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby TritioAFB » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:42 am

AceD wrote: just there's only 3 people with big channels and the other xx amount are small


I'm one of those big fishs :ying:
and the rest I eat them :awesome:
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:15 pm

Or instead of running away from copyright infringement, you could dispute it using a real reason why you think your AMVs should be allowed. Fair Use. (there's usually a link for disputes, or follow the link Nya posted) Just say something like: "By combining the music with the rearranged clips in the manner shown, this video creates an entirely different experience than the original works used; thus falling under fair use in copyright law." Or something like that. I mean... you truly believe your AMVs should be allowed don't you? Just explain why. (which is kind-of a difficult task, but at least you can try...)

And it also depends how you do it. Acknowledge that you are using someone else' work by giving credit where credit is due (and that's just good form... otherwise it's almost plagiarism in a way... I mean you can write an entire academic paper using ideas from other peoples' work as long as you cite everything... and you could argue that AMVs are no different...) So provide information/links to the artist/anime in the description, and maybe even add a disclaimer like the one used on the org. THIS VIDEO IS PURELY FAN-MADE AND IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE MUSICAL ARTIST OR ANIME COMPANY IN ANY WAY. It's just a simple way to let other people know that the work isn't fully yours.

Then again, even that sometimes doesn't work...
...but the way I figure... the more people dispute fair use, the more likely AMVs as a hobby will gain some legitimacy.
Otherwise the hobby is always gonna be kept down by The Man :evil:
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Anyways, the org still makes more sense for collecting AMVs :amv:
Also, you might find this useful for what you are trying to do: The Ultimate AMV Resource
Best of luck!
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Re: Amv collector!

Postby CastielTheFallen » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm

I pick things up

I am the collector.
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