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Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:06 pm

Now I just got my first strike on YouTube. I know this happens to everyone eventually.

I was just wondering what makes the ORG free from copyright infringement laws?
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Re: Copyright

Postby CrackTheSky » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:27 pm

Nothing. We just don't get noticed.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Castor Troy » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:15 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Nothing. We just don't get noticed.


We got noticed by Creed, Evanasence, and Seether. :(
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Re: Copyright

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:49 pm

So if you upload something from these bands then your video can't be shared?
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Re: Copyright

Postby Panky » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:56 pm

I believe people who uploaded videos with those music bands before could get a local copy of it, but wouldn't be announced publically to other people. I doubt you can still upload videos with that music, though.

And yeah, it seems only those bands sent a warning for their music instead of making it more kind of a public issue, which could mean a bigger problem for the org. The org goes unnoticed for most music bands like CrackTheSky says (actual way to dl videos might make it harder for them to track it)
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Re: Copyright

Postby Kawatta-kun » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:25 am

And posting "Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use." always helps, for them to see that that is fan-work.

The org has something like it posted at the streaming part too. It helps too I guess?
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Re: Copyright

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:34 am

There is no "fair use." If you are using copyrighted material you are infringing.
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Re: Copyright

Postby EvaFan » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:48 am

The AMV has to be good receiving positive comments about the sources or work overall for them to not do anything about it apparently. I'm only saying that cause one of mine was uploaded by someone years ago and its still up there. Actually its been uploaded twice and both are still there with advertising and shit on it. I'm sure this is the case with alot of people's AMVs here.

That's really the only reason they would let it stay. Nice double standard isn't it?

As for the org, I'm sure we've been noticed by now... A search for "AMV" in google has us at the top, even "anime music video". It's not very hard to find us really. So the question is, why haven't they done anything?

Maybe it's cause we advocate buying sources here and morals and whatnot, really I don't know. Though I'd wager less than half actually buy their sources. It could all so be that this site is ALOT less popular and obscured compared to youtube. Not even worth the hassle.
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Re: Copyright

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:58 am

To EvaFan, that's what I use to think, but that's completely wrong. It was Toei Animation who deleted my video. I think it's based on the amount of footage you use. This was a very RAW AMV of mine, Bardock: Father of Goku. So since it contained a lot of footage and no effects, it made it more noticable. I honestly love the ORG and have been a member since 2001, I just really hate the negative feedback for your efforts. I have gained some popularity on YouTube and made a lot of friends.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Zarxrax » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:38 am

The companies are just too lazy.
Youtube has tools that automatically find infringing material for the companies, so the companies dont have to actually do anything except sit on their butts and push a button, and its gone.
Here, they might have to actually send a letter or something.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Knowname » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:53 am

EvaFan wrote:As for the org, I'm sure we've been noticed by now... A search for "AMV" in google has us at the top, even "anime music video". It's not very hard to find us really. So the question is, why haven't they done anything?

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Re: Copyright

Postby Kanti13 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:31 am

Panky wrote:I believe people who uploaded videos with those music bands before could get a local copy of it, but wouldn't be announced publically to other people. I doubt you can still upload videos with that music, though.

And yeah, it seems only those bands sent a warning for their music instead of making it more kind of a public issue, which could mean a bigger problem for the org. The org goes unnoticed for most music bands like CrackTheSky says (actual way to dl videos might make it harder for them to track it)

After that episode all my Evanescence videos' links were disabled. :(
Doesn't matter when you uploaded. You can't use those bands.
And if I remember correctly, the problem was that some stupid fan wrote the bands asking if they made the videos on this site or something along those lines and that's how it was noticed. Not something that happens often.
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Re: Copyright

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:09 am

LOL People are pretty dumb sometimes. Like those pesky AMV stealers out there.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Arigatomina » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:42 am

pan_dbgt01 wrote:I think it's based on the amount of footage you use.

It's not. When they delete the video for the anime, it's because you listed that anime in your description. I had a fan-animated vid up where there was no anime footage, just fanart, and the first thing they did was disable it because I had "Inuyasha" in the vid description. They never checked to see if there was any actual anime footage in the vid or they would have realized there was none. I had a second copy of that vid uploaded to the tube, my first attempt where only half the vid got uploaded. It wasn't deleted during the Inuyasha sweep because I didn't mention the sources in the vid description. [It did get the audio disabled later for using Evanescence, though. Sigh... ]

I've had a lot of vids uploaded to the tube. The only times I've ever seen one get the anime disabled is when the name of the anime was listed in the vid description or title. They catch this stuff by searching for words/names. As far as I know they don't have a way to "bug" anime footage the way they do with songs.
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Re: Copyright

Postby HalOfBorg » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:57 am

I just re-uploaded my "Sub Ruler" video to youtube, with nothing of the anime in the title or anywhere, and almost instantly got an email saying:

Your video, AMV - Sub Ruler: Whale Wars - by HalOfBorg, may have content that is owned or licensed by BandaiChannel.
Help HalOfBorg fight his cancer - http://www.gofundme.com/21ygdk

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