Hall of Fame?

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Hall of Fame?

Postby Kosmit » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:58 pm

The org has been around for quite some time. During that period many editors have come and gone. Newcomers often have no idea whose works from few years back are worth checking out (me included) so those videos are generally left untouched. Well, to be precise, VCA winners still get a lot of recognition, but many great editors have not won any of those awards, yet are still worth checking out either for enjoyment or for a lesson in AMV history.
So, why not introduce a Hall of fame for editors? Those, who had a great impact on AMVs throughout the years would be added with a short article about them, describing why they were chosen for the hall of fame. Think of editors like Kevin Caldwell, Koopiskeva or Nostromo. Of course we would need to have some rules in place - for example, only editors who started making AMVs at least 6 years ago would be eligible to join the hall of fame. That way editors, who are long retired from the hobby, would be the first ones in the hall of fame.

Any thoughts on the idea?
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Enigma » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:06 pm

Sounds good to me.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Mastamind » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:33 pm

I'm for it. I'm hardly familiar with pre-2003-ish big names, and new editors probably wouldn't be either.

Although it's all jumbled up and individual ideas aren't getting much attention, this prolly goes here...
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Castor Troy » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:41 pm

I'd love to have this happen, but so many bad things will probably come out out it. Especially with all the circle jerking that's going on here.

It wouldn't be fair to an editor who makes really super awesome videos, is an awesome person in the community, but is uneligible because he/she hasn't made amvs for 6 years.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby OtakuGray » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:45 pm

How would we judge who gets in though? Skills? Fame? These are all things that people would be opinionated about and argue over, im sure.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Qyot27 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:08 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I'd love to have this happen, but so many bad things will probably come out out it. Especially with all the circle jerking that's going on here.

It wouldn't be fair to an editor who makes really super awesome videos, is an awesome person in the community, but is uneligible because he/she hasn't made amvs for 6 years.

Aside from divvying up the entries into trite titles like 'Architect of Beat Sync' or 'Philosopher-Priest of Dual-VCRs' to specify older honorees from newer ones, there's still got to be a cut-off somewhere. Heck, 3 or 4 years might be enough for *some* editors, but anyone newer than that would likely be pushing into regular VCA territory.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Zarxrax » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:48 pm

I think it's a cool idea. I suppose there could be a panel of people who would vote on who gets into the hall of fame. Regular people could make nominations, but some panel of judges would have the final say. Maybe limit it to about 3 people being added into the hall of fame each year.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Koopiskeva » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:49 pm

Hey, I'm not that old |:<

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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Castor Troy » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:07 pm

Zarxrax wrote:I think it's a cool idea. I suppose there could be a panel of people who would vote on who gets into the hall of fame. Regular people could make nominations, but some panel of judges would have the final say. Maybe limit it to about 3 people being added into the hall of fame each year.


3 people per year is definitely not enough. It would take us till 2020 just to get to the 2001 editors if we're going to start with Vlad, Kevin Caldwell, Anna Exter, Maboroshi, Aluminum, etc. :P

I have a proposal to start this off in order to avoid circle jerking. I guarantee this will be interesting.

Instead of nominating other people right now, start off with yourself and only yourself. Tell us why you feel you deserve to be in this Hall of Fame. Seriously. I wonder how many people will actually be courageous to actually do this. If Beowulf doesn't start, I will. :awesome:
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby TritioAFB » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:56 pm

Interesting idea but I think it should include people that has started a true revolution in the making of amvs. Someone that has changed the way we see the amvs
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby godix » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:46 pm

That was kinda sorta the idea way back when I did this. Nothing ever came of it really though.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby 8bit_samurai » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:56 pm

I actually thought about something like this, but more like a recommended/required viewing. Something like Phade has somewhere, but more updated. Perhaps one with each genre and style of editing, and perhaps with a best of each generation of AMVs list, or something to that affect.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Qyot27 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:48 pm

Castor Troy wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:I think it's a cool idea. I suppose there could be a panel of people who would vote on who gets into the hall of fame. Regular people could make nominations, but some panel of judges would have the final say. Maybe limit it to about 3 people being added into the hall of fame each year.


3 people per year is definitely not enough. It would take us till 2020 just to get to the 2001 editors if we're going to start with Vlad, Kevin Caldwell, Anna Exter, Maboroshi, Aluminum, etc. :P

3 people per month? I'd only wonder how long that would take to exhaust itself before it would need to be dropped down to 3 per quarter or 3 per year.

How about determining judges based on join date/editing activity? Say, editors that joined prior to X date and/or have X number of videos in the catalog (possibly weighted against opinion scores or star rankings). And then slowly change those limits as time goes on as well. That way the older editors that have stuck around can nominate and vote in the older editors (including much older editors) that may or may not have stuck around. I'm thinking something of a cross between the way the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame goes through its induction process, and VH1 determines its Top whatever lists of whatever songs/artists/albums. The first sets the restrictions on who can be considered and so forth, while the second takes a polling of artists in the recording industry who rank their biggest influences/top picks and then VH1 simply tallies the votes.

Or make it double-blind - for each nomination cycle, the judges get voted in by regular members. The members have no idea who the judges are (which would require not displaying the voting results), and the judges would then vote for their top 3 picks from the nominee list also generated by the regular members. The top 3 from all the nominees are then inducted. The process then repeats monthly or bi-monthly or whatever. Judge voting could be open for 2 weeks, and then the judges would have 2 weeks to vote for their picks. Just make sure there's a good number of judges each month, and after judging in one cycle, you'd have to sit out for the next four or five cycles or something like that. Give others a chance to judge too.

The only problem is that the amount of editors to start off with would be incredibly unwieldy, and wouldn't tend to change much until all of them had been voted in. At a rate of 3 per month, that's 36 a year. We'd probably run out of nominees of superior note after 2-2½ years, and I'm not sure if newer editors would be able to bridge that time gap so quickly to fill the nominee list back up.

All of this Hall of Fame voting and judge candidacy and so on could probably use a dedicated subforum, like the VCA stuff gets. Except it'd ostensibly be open all year.
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Ikore » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:17 pm

Koopiskeva wrote:Hey, I'm not that old |:<
you´re that OLD, accept it! but you actually won a VCA so technically you are not qualify for this idea, it is suppose to recognize non-award but worthy editors or not???

I guess a VCA owner is automatically added to the Hall Of Fame :uhoh: ps, great idea :up: :up: :up:
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Re: Hall of Fame?

Postby Zarxrax » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:24 am

Come on guys, Just because someone is old and made AMVs doesn't mean they are hall of fame material :p
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