stealing on youtube

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stealing on youtube

Postby Tash » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:21 am

Attaching their own bumpers and saying it is theirs. Should we just let these people have the fun. What have you said or done in reaction. I think its hilarious that someone would go through that much trouble for a lie.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Athena » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:36 am

REPOST IS REPOST REPOST

This thread is an example of a dead horse people keep beating. It's happened to most of us. There is nothing you can do. Consider it a compliment someone is so enamored by your work they want to take credit for it and move on.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Tash » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:40 am

oh god sorry, figured
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Megamom » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:10 am

Tash wrote:Attaching their own bumpers and saying it is theirs. Should we just let these people have the fun. What have you said or done in reaction. I think its hilarious that someone would go through that much trouble for a lie.


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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Tash » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:06 pm

I just feels like an amazing phenomonon that the internet has created, lots of anonymous
untalented people can get a tiny pump of an ego boost in little online worlds, I can't think of an example of this happening before the web because everything had to be done in person, but editing amvs can be so arbitrary, any age and person can be credited for any video. I wonder how this custom of lieing will evolve with the future and more advanced hobbies. Because even though they didn't make the videos, I am sure they feel a bit proud when they get congratulatory comments, I wonder what that will do to us over generations, feeling good about fake success.

thats all I will say good bye now
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Otohiko » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:24 pm

The youtube culture does amaze me sometimes. I've seen a bunch of "AMV contests" on the tube where the "prize" was a certain number of subscriptions to someone's channel. That definitely made me raise an eyebrow.

Tash's "Why?" is a perfectly legit question that noone in any of these "dead horse" threads has even so much as tried to rationally tackle, imho.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Athena » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:09 pm

Oto, Bashar and I have both addressed it. At length. I am sure others have as well. It's an increase in the demand for instant gratification. YouTube theft is but one incarnation of this increasing demand for reward without effort. It's just a very blatant one. You are so against any kind of effort for your positive strokes that you can't even be bothered to cut off the bumpers (which is what my thieves did, and then they lied to my internet face by posting "it's not yours." "uh, really, cause it says KIONON on it..." "u lie, I not a thief" etc). Pathetic.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:21 pm

The most common reaction I've seen out there is to create hideous watermarks and slap it in the corner of their video. Glaring eyesores they are, but I hate professional watermarks as well.

I sometimes start the end credits just before the video ends, makes it slightly harder for them to rip off my end credits without disrupting the end of the video. I guess this is about as underhanded as the watermark, but I think it's less distracting because it only happens at the end of the video.

MY normal reaction is to leave a comment stating something like: "Thanks for liking my video and all, but why did you remove my credits?" Truthfully, I've never actually had someone change my bumpers to their's, but they just remove them. So far every time I've done this the video is removed, without a fight even.

When it wasn't my video, posting the actual name of the video, "OMG this is _______! I love this vid!" or similar has given me the same results. I assume it's because they have been found out.

I find that my videos end up in Frankensteins more than anything. Pointing out that's what they did I usually just gets the person "crediting" me. O.o I've given up caring about those, at least there was some slight effort in the video more than just removing bumpers.

I've yet to have a video of mine stolen where they just changed the music, but this has happened to my friends, usually pointing out what they did oftentimes gets them to take the video down. Though I think it was more of a fight.
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Why do they do this? I assume they want recognition without the work.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby TritioAFB » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:23 pm

I remember there was a guy teaching newbies about how to steal an amv. He even mentioned all the sites like this one, and techniques :rofl:
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:23 pm

I just have account(s) set up for sending form-letters and flagging vids. Check it once a month or so. Haven't had much of a problem lately because even though i've made stuff that's won awards, none of it's been mainstream enough for people to even download.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby nommay » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:32 am

I tell them that they are amazingly talented, and that it's pretty much the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby LittleAtari » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:42 am

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this should end the same way too.
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby gotegenks » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:28 am

everyone complains about this like it happens all the time...i've never seen one of my videos stolen, and i've only seen it happen at all like twice.

does it really happen that much? how do you happen to find your stolen videos?

more on topic, have you ever put your own bumpers on a video consisting of copyrighted anime and music?
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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby Kai Stromler » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:52 am

People jacking my shit on youtube is awesome. The bands get increased visibility, I don't have to do any actual work, and someone else has to eat any copyright aggro. It doesn't happen that often, but when it does, the only reaction is to chuckle that someone else is a) so desperate for attention that they'll do my work for me and b) so lacking in judgment as to jack my stuff for attention when they could be stealing from someone popular.

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Re: stealing on youtube

Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:50 am

but stealing from someone popular will only get you hoards of haters (fans of the popular editor) and start flame wars on the stolen video page, so there's no sense in stealing from someone popular... (I've seen videos like Jihaku ripped off though, maybe flamers are the reason that they were instantly taken down O.o)

As for the question of "how do you find the stolen videos?" sometimes they show up in the related of your own video, the easy way is to go looking for the same anime/song combo either on youtube or on google.

One of the videos that had only replaced the audio my friends and I found because the person tried to enter the same contest as us. There's a few ways of finding these things.
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