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Postby RadicalEd0 » Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:47 pm

I use DVDDecrypter over smart ripper, its l33t because it can rip and burn images to dvd-r, and just because its always worked for me.
DVDx isn't a standalone ripper, it rips and converts to SVCD or VCD and etc. However I'd use dvd2svcd over dvdx for that task, since it uses avisynth and thus filtering and IVTC can be performed. Also DVDx's built in encoder is far from the best and unless you use CCE as a plugin I cant see any real advantage to DVDx at all.
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Postby Deaths_ally » Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:32 pm

thats true.. DVDx isn't really that good... I use it because I have nothing else, and i don't have the HDD space to put the DVD's onto my computer, then convert....

so I just up all the buffers etc. and don't use the computer while it's encoding.....

*thinks, "now I've gone and done it.... that was stupid."*
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Postby Leanan » Sat Feb 08, 2003 11:33 am

I use claddvd xp
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Postby SilverOgre » Mon Feb 10, 2003 8:54 am

*Plunges sword deep into the pelvic bone just above the groin.....slashes upwards.*
*Cleans and sheathes the blade. Sneers in disgust.*
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Postby V3n0m » Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:27 pm

yas anybody looked into DeCSS?
i use smartripper, then dvd2avi as most for all my vids, i'm looking into huffyuv also
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Postby Leanan » Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:43 pm

SilverOgre wrote:*Plunges sword deep into the pelvic bone just above the groin.....slashes upwards.*
*Cleans and sheathes the blade. Sneers in disgust.*


what the heck?
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:57 pm

deCSS is an illegal, old, and defunct program that was the original ripper-css cracker hacked off of xing's unprotected dvd player key. It probably wouldnt work with 95% of discs out there today, and all of its features are available except much better in newer rippers like dvddecrypter and smartripper.

also Vstrip is the most reliable ripper and will succeed if decrypter and smartripper fail
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Postby V3n0m » Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:20 am

whats the program or whatever that that kid made that was in the news not to long ago? it had something to do with DVD's
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:32 am

that was it.
Courts are just really slow :\
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Postby Deaths_ally » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:34 am

Leanan wrote:
SilverOgre wrote:*Plunges sword deep into the pelvic bone just above the groin.....slashes upwards.*
*Cleans and sheathes the blade. Sneers in disgust.*


what the heck?


n00b made the tread.... he obviously didn't read this page....

He was reacting to my promt on the first page....
(I attacked first)
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Postby V3n0m » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:35 am

arg forum fights
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Postby Pierrot Le Fou » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:48 am

The post about DeCSS being illegal and old and bad is erroneous. Smart
Ripper uses DeCSS (and a couple others I forgot) to decrypt DVDs. Also
because of the ruling mentioned above, DeCSS is not illegal and neither
is DVD ripping.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:53 am

ErMaC wrote:Actually it's really silly - there's no legal order barring the distribution of most dvd ripping programs these days because they don't even use the same algorithm as DeCSS did.

If you go back and actually use the original DeCSS program, on a lot of discs it just won't work. Nowadays DVD rippers use a completely different kind of attack. Essentially you unlock the drive with DVD playing software, and then the rippers use a plain-text attack against the VOB files themselves to find the title key, whereas the original DeCSS would actually try to unlock the title key using its own hijacked player key.

So the whole DeCSS injunction doesn't apply to vStrip, smartripper, dvd decryptor, etc. because they don't use the method that was outlawed. Granted, they're still probably illegal, but until a court steps in and outlaws that algorithm you're ok. :)


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Postby jonmartensen » Tue Feb 11, 2003 1:58 am

Ed0 is becoming masterfull in the art of BAM!
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Postby Pierrot Le Fou » Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:39 pm

Of course that's really irrelevant because now there's a legal precedent
saying that you can rip your own DVDs as long as you dont distribute
copies of it. AMVs, however reside in much murkier, untested waters.
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