Musing on the community by OtakuGray

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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby OtakuGray » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:28 am

Also i didnt write it for mainstream org. I wrote it for faggots on youtube who think they know how to edit better than anyone else and new editors who dont understand anything about the community they just joined. It was meant to be negative because imho the mainstream youtube editing community has gotten out of hand. Thats why i didnt really write much on org. Personally though, i think there are a lot of immature people on here...coughwho might edit a rant without asking firstcough
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.


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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby gotegenks » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:36 am

OtakuGray wrote:Also i didnt write it for people with intellect. I wrote it for idiots who might believe what i say
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby OtakuGray » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:43 am

gote wrote:
OtakuGray wrote:Also i didnt write it for people with intellect. I wrote it for idiots who might believe what i say


WELL. Thanks, was nice trying to edit in peace but i guess thats not possible anymore, so cya. |:>

Chiikaboom all over again?
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby kickass331 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:45 am

OtakuGray wrote:bla bla bla yotsubas going thru her period
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby ngsilver » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:53 am

OtakuGray's Journa from 2010-07-25 l wrote: A Rant on the Anime Music Video and Anime Communities 2010-07-25 12:45:29 This is a very long and detailed rant on the problems and issues that go on with our community. If you would please read this long rant, i would be very appreciative. The opinions in this rant are not made to offend and are not targeted at anyone unless they are named.

Also, you will need Microsoft Word or Open Office to read this.

THE RANT//
http://www.mediafire.com/?592aehieod9zf56

Again, please read and comment on what your thoughts are. I would be very greatful :)

Did you not realize that the journal system was public? If you didn't want this to be aired public-ally to the org or didn't want people to discuss it then why did you post it and ask for comments?
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby kickass331 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:08 pm

ngsilver wrote:
OtakuGray's Journal from 2010-07-25 wrote: Rant Towards Anime Music Video / Anime Communities 2010-07-25 12:45:29 This is a very long and detailed rant on the problems and issues that go on within our community. If you read this long rant, I will be very appreciative. The opinions in this rant are not made to target or offend anyone unless they are named.

You will need Microsoft Word or Open Office to read this.

THE RANT//
http://www.mediafire.com/?592aehieod9zf56

Please read and comment on it. I will be very grateful :)

Did you not realize that the journal system was public? If you didn't want this to be aired publicly to the org and didn't want people to discuss it then why did you post it and ask for comments?

that's what she said
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby inthesto » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:46 pm

OtakuGray wrote:Tbh, i didn't even proof read the shit. I don't rant for people to CARE.


Welp.

Your own god damn essay wrote: The whole community must change, somehow, with efforts from many. I think that, if one person reads this, then perhaps I have helped that change happen a little bit faster.


You explicitly said that the purpose of your writing was for people to read it, and in turn, care. See, this is what I mean by understanding what you say before you, you know, actually say it.

OtakuGray wrote:Also i didnt write it for mainstream org.


Which is why you released it on your Org journal, where most of the users heavily overlap with forum users, aka "the mainstream org", right?


Personally though, i think there are a lot of immature people on here...coughwho might edit a rant without asking firstcough


Honestly, you should be pretty damn happy that I took the time to read your rant, much less went through and made it coherent. If you read my comments (go ahead and and double check, I'm not paying attention to timestamps), I spent most of my time critiquing the structure and organization of your arguments, and I actually left your ideas as intact as I possibly could.

Here's a tip, though (here's some of that constructive criticism we all know that the Org is so badly in need of): If you're going to write something for the purpose of being read (and you did because not only did you release it on a public website, but you say so in the conclusion of your essay), make it readable. It also helps a lot if you publish it somewhere where its target audience will actually find it.


ngsilver wrote:Did you not realize that the journal system was public? If you didn't want this to be aired public-ally to the org or didn't want people to discuss it then why did you post it and ask for comments?


Publicly is a word, duder.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby Taite » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:20 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:You are not your video, just because someone says something bad about your video that doesn't mean they are attacking you personally. (General statement - it seems sometimes people forget this.)


QFT.

And I don't know. All this thread is going to be in the end is utter douchebaggery against OtakuGray, as already exhibited and proven by a few people here.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby Ileia » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:24 pm

Nah, this thread seems to be all about the definition of otaku D:
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby Kitsuner » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:36 pm

Ileia wrote:Nah, this thread seems to be all about the definition of otaku D:

Next we'll be debating whether it's better to write "gray" or "grey"...
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby gotegenks » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:41 pm

JaddziaDurden wrote:You are not your video. You are not the anime you like. You are not the program you use. You are not the contents of your rig, and you are not your fucking HDD
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby kickass331 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:08 pm

goats wrote:
JaddziaDurden wrote:You are not your video. You are not the anime you like. You are not the program you use. You are not the contents of your rig, and you are not your fucking HDD

i know. i would have been cool if i was darker than black or sony vegas
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:29 pm

While I think the rant makes some interesting points, I don't think that the rant goes to inform any newbies about the community. It just gives an opinion about all the bad stuff in the community, and then mislabels people. (Which is why people have issues about being labeled).

It also contradicts itself when it comes to raw editing vs effect editing. Which are we to believe is better? from his rant it seems that both are bad. You aren't a good editor unless you use effects, but if you don't start out with learning raw editing then you aren't good either. But if you stay with raw editing then you are lazy and a bad editor.

Never mind the fact that maybe a video shouldn't have effects, or they don't need them, because effects would just damage the video more than enhance it, or the fact that effects may improve the video and give it a flavor that otherwise wouldn't exist. Cause it doesn't matter weather or not the effects work in the video, its all about the laziness of the editor.

Going to the original rant (not the edited one), who are you to say how old is too old to enjoy a video game. I'm way too old for the intended demographic for some video games, yet I still play and enjoy them. Pokemon is definitely one of them. In fact, I never played Pokemon until I was well into my 20s. Pokemon didn't even hit the US until my senior year in high school. The kiddies on LBP tell me I'm too old for it all the time, but that doesn't stop me from playing it. Next you will be telling me that I'm too old for Final Fantasy because I'm nearing on 30 and that's a game for teenagers to early 20s.

Also you need to stop talking for Chiikaboom.
Also you leaving the org due to differing opinions is not the same as her, so please don't compare yourself to a situation you don't know much about.
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby ZephyrStar » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:33 pm

ohayguise what's going on in this thread?

Newbies to the .org often play the "OMG I AM GREAT EDITOR FROM UTUBECHECK ME OUT" card. This is generally seen as obnoxious, as it happens often and nine times out of ten, nothing of value is presented. The org also has members who edit for a living or hold themselves to very high standards creatively. So while we can constructively critique each other, that comes off as bullying to those who don't understand our intentions. As a result, they won't listen. This eventually leads to resentment from both parties, thus a hostile attitude by some in the .org community towards the endless youtube swarm, and the percieved hostility of the .org by said endless swarm.

In the anime fandom, the situation is almost exactly the same. Anime veterans with years of watching experience get told by someone who has only seen Naruto and who throws around pidgeon Japanese that it is the baddest ass anime in all of existence. Leading to resentment and distaste by both parties. Can we just be content to be elitists and have an extensive knowledge base about a subject which nobody really even cares about? Or an obnoxious fan who will look back on their actions ten years later and be ashamed to be alive? Karma's a bitch like that.

(in summation, just make what you want)
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Re: Musing on the community by OtakuGray

Postby Mastamind » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:22 pm

The irony of it is that if a newbie happens upon this thread, they're very likely to agree with OtakuGray's stereotype that the org is mainly a bunch of elitist trolls.
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