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NewB mistakes

Postby Chaos Angel » Tue Feb 04, 2003 10:06 pm

I thought it would be an entertaining idea to share some of the mistakes you may have made while learning how to make videos, be they AMVs or otherwise (I've learned a lot in just one year, I think).

I'll start with this little gem. When I first started working with video editing, I wanted to know how people did this or that special effect. So, in an effort to learn, I took Eric Jone's What Lies Beneath MPEG encode and popped it into Premiere, thinking that it would show me all of the steps taken during editting and show me how he did some of the special effects.

...Looking back, I can't believe I ever thought that would work. Lol.

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Postby Jebadia » Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:45 pm

well...I was errogant I guess, or just stupid, ever email people and ask them to make a dvd rip of something for yah....good thing they didn't respond....makes me feel all shameful thinking about it...
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Postby Koopiskeva » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:02 am

Hmm.. well... I used Divx sources :|
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Postby Jebadia » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:14 am

I'm with yah man, I've been there..

this should be renamed to AA...AMVers Anonymous...
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Postby jonmartensen » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:14 am

I am using a downloaded source. :) I'm still on my second and third right now...so I may not be a noob of the forum, but I haven't made any Kuality vids yet either. (only done one vid total :P )
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Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:46 am

Downloaded everything for my first video. EVERYTHING...

I'm legit now, though.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:01 am

I used much downloaded stuff for my first AMVs (it was DBZ/GT too, for shame :cry: ).

I even had some stuff with the CN watermark on it :x
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:36 am

Wel, i made the mistake of asking where a good clip library was located at, not knowing i was violating a fair few unwritten AMV laws :oops:

And i got involved in a few virtual-verbal battles. :oops: :? :oops:

whoops.

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Postby (NERD Studios) Arturo » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:56 am

Halfway through my first vid I've learned that I should have cut wwwwaaaaayyyyy more clips than I did. I can't believe I wasted god only knows how many hours going through Eva at roughly 1/3 normal speed and I took maybe, maybe about 1/4 as many clips as I should have.
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Postby Deaths_ally » Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:10 am

I'd say my BIGGEST EVER! (this was huge now i look back), on my first vid.. i used other AMV's and made it in two hours flat.... a that two minutes an hour.... worst of all it was a DBZ clip, and guess what!! I still have it!!
I'm too lazy to delete it.. and it's a reminder of how much i have progressed from that day when i opened WMM, with a system of a down song in my head...
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Postby KLin » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:48 am

I tried to lip-synch on my first video using Windows Movie Maker. Where there weren't even any stand-out portions in the song that could justify lip-synch. The result was a few segments of lip-flap that did not really look like lip-synch at all.

I did a short lip-synch in my fourth AMV, and I feel like it really matches. It certainly works a lot better than the first AMV. But very few people have seen it. And either because it's sort of part of my end buffer and not really part of the song, it's rather pixelly, or because they thought that it was an unedited vocal segment didn't give me a score for it. :/
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Postby FATTY_VM » Wed Feb 05, 2003 5:33 am

im doing my 1st vid now .. playing with primier and WMM to get the feel .. i am using both d\l songs and yes .. anime as well (fansubbs! yay!), im saving my dvd sets for when i do get the hang of it and can be quite sure i can handle ripping and editing.

all in all .. these 1st 2 vids will be pure and tottal crap .. yay me.
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Postby Paul Kievits » Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:07 am

Spending 5 months of my life on my first video (which was DBZ) and actually getting pissed that I didn't win a contest with it -_-
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Postby BishounenStalker » Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:45 pm

Well, I technically wouldn't call this stupid piece my first AMV...it was more like just playing with downloaded Eva footage and a Wierd Al song to get a feel for how Premiere worked. And yes, it turned out awful. No transitions, crappy pixelled footage, HORRID lipsynch (don't ask me why I bothered), really bad MP3 sound encoding, and an enormous file size.

For my first real serious AMV, the three major mistakes I made were 1) ripping the FF7 videos in Cinepak (worst .avi codec ever written) and REOMPRESSING them with the same damn codec for the "final" cut, 2) layering fullscreen scenes over the ending sequence footage without clipping it, and thus magnifying the black bar distraction (if you've seen the end of FF7, you know what I mean), and 3) no compression whatsoever of the audio. When I look at the original version, I laugh at myself it's so bad.

To me, there isn't much wrong with using uber-high-quality DivX source, especially if you don't have the hard drive space to support all HuffyUV source clips (I'm only going to have about 15GB on the new laptop I'm getting, so I'll have to use either DivX or MPEG-1 source clips). The only problem I ran into with that is that Premiere HATES the combo of DivX source and pre-made transitions. But I easily solved that problem on my second AMV by using the rubberbands for fades (which look cooler anyway).
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Postby Kusoyaro » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:16 pm

I used the default MPEG export settings for my first 6 or 7 videos, thought it was the best I could get, and trashed the source files. So the shitty MPEGs are the only "master" copies I have. See Ugly Girl, Anime Passion, Youth Gone Wild, etc. for examples.

I used to also cut the songs into 10-second segments and edit them in separate project files, then export them individually and put all the bits together...which is why you can hear audio blips in some of the old videos. I was an idiot.
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