Have you noticed a little something...??

This forum is for the general discussion of Anime Music Videos.

Have you noticed a little something...??

Postby Bushido Philosopher » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:54 pm

Have you noticed that we have a lot more talent than those who do "official" music videos (meaning those that they release on DVDs and such). I mean tons of these official ones use the "slap-random-scene-to-music" and it's like any moron could do it.

I wonder if they would be interested in hiring some people from here. Probably not...but just a good idea don't you think?
"Many people want to change the world, but very few even consider changing themselves."
<<A>My Member Profile</a>> <<A>Read my Xanga</a>>
User avatar
Bushido Philosopher
 
Joined: 25 Jun 2001
Location: California

Postby Koopiskeva » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:57 pm

Do you mean like MTV music videos?

Those are made to appeal to the public, not for any hidden meaning. I'm sure the editors have the talent, but that's just not what those videos are made for.
Hi.
User avatar
Koopiskeva
|:
 
Joined: 17 Mar 2002
Location: Out There Occupation: Fondling Private Areas ..of the Nation.
Status: O:

Re: Have you noticed a little something...??

Postby Castor Troy » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:57 pm

Ko Oh Yoku wrote:Have you noticed that we have a lot more talent than those who do "official" music videos (meaning those that they release on DVDs and such). I mean tons of these official ones use the "slap-random-scene-to-music" and it's like any moron could do it.

I wonder if they would be interested in hiring some people from here. Probably not...but just a good idea don't you think?


Most of us don't get money to do videos.

They probably have like 100 other projects to work on plus deadlines which prevents them from putting more artistic effort.
Image
"Vlad, you will not get my new blockbuster video. Sorry bro." - Chemix800, Hollywood Editor
User avatar
Castor Troy
Ryan Molina, A.C.E
 
Joined: 16 Jan 2001
Location: California
Status: Retired from AMVs

Postby Brolli411 » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:59 pm

I don't think that 'Official' is the right word for it. More of the most redound creators. The publicized. I don't really think that much attention goes toward those artists, than the artist that don't publicize as much. But in the terms of the talent, I totally agree.

"It's all in the Youth!"
<A HREF="http://animemusicvideos.org/members/members_myprofile.php?user_id=3961">Member Profile</a>

"You just saved the entire world from a near-death destruction, how do you feel?"
"I'm going to Disney Land!"
"That's right, Disney Land, you heard it here first folks."

MPEG2Source("C:/<A HREF="http://animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/">Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>")
User avatar
Brolli411
 
Joined: 25 May 2001
Location: Columbus, Ohio

Postby The Wired Knight » Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:28 pm

He means the ones that are extras on some DVDs or in some cases, ads. Generally nobody really cares when they make them, they just want everyone to think that they have this neat little special feature. The Cowboy Bebop one is particularly bad. Fushigi Yuugi's are fair but generally these videos only exist as a sort of "highlights of the show" recap, which is rather pointless to do it that way seeing as the company allready has your money by this time.
BANG

Intellectual Property, Real Estate & Probate Attorney.
User avatar
The Wired Knight
 
Joined: 07 Jan 2001
Location: Right next door to you
Status: Attorney At Law

Postby Deaths_ally » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:34 am

I have 2 of the "offical" cowboy bebop music video's and the both suck.... the timing is way off, the scenes don't fit the mood and by my count i had one scene repeat 10-12 times in the clip... worse than my first vid...
User avatar
Deaths_ally
 
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: A hole in the floor

Postby Lyrs » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:39 am

MTV should hire you guys to make AMV's for them.

/end
GeneshaSeal - Dead Seals for Free
Orgasm - It's a Science
User avatar
Lyrs
 
Joined: 29 Aug 2002
Location: Internet Donation: 5814 Posts

Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:10 am

It'd be great if MTV cared enough about the videos to allow people to do meaningful videos that actually don't suck (which is not to say there are not videos that I like. Alien Ant Farms Smooth Criminal is just plain fun, the Fatboy Slim video with Christopher Walken, whose song I forget at the moment, is vry interesting to watch, and Tenacious D's Wonderboy video is very nice, I think, to name a few), but they only want footage to music that they can play. They don't care if it sucks, or if it's utterly random (Queens of the Stone Age No One Knows video...); they just want something, anything, that they can air.

My favorite example is Simple Plan's video for I'm Just A Kid. That video exists solely as an advertisement for the movie The New Guy. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the song and just sucks. MeriC and VegettoX's Trigun video using the same song is MUCH better.
Fragile and Frail | Summertime

I'm not a vegetarian because I enjoy eating cute animals.
User avatar
Chaos Angel
 
Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Location: Vidderating

Postby MistyCaldwell » Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:47 am

The people who edit those videos are almost always taking direction. If they have a better idea, it most likely doesn't matter because commercial tv/movies are there to make money and they have to please the person fronting the cash.

It's not necessarily their fault...post production editing is rarely free for creativity. By that time in the production (after filming/taping) it's been all but decided what it should look like in the end...by someone other than the editor.
Image
User avatar
MistyCaldwell
 
Joined: 18 Jan 2002
Location: Virginia

Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:36 am

Plus, the director himself would probably be telling the editor how to piece the video together.

This is why I'm studying cinema; so I can be the director calling the shots, not the guy who get's told "This goes here. That goes there."
Fragile and Frail | Summertime

I'm not a vegetarian because I enjoy eating cute animals.
User avatar
Chaos Angel
 
Joined: 07 Jan 2002
Location: Vidderating

Postby Nightowl » Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:07 pm

Post production editing for a client would suck if it weren't for the money. You always need to have something on the side so you can continue your artistic aspirations... I would go on more about it, but it's an extremely depressing topic.

-N
User avatar
Nightowl
 
Joined: 29 May 2001

Postby KLin » Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:50 pm

The Banner of the Stars trailer video was done by a member for Bandai. The announcement post is here

Apparently they aren't paid a whole lot anyways, so that's another reason not to spend a lot of time working on an AMV.
User avatar
KLin
 
Joined: 02 Jun 2002
Location: One of two California cities

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:23 pm

KLin wrote:The Banner of the Stars trailer video was done by a member for Bandai. The announcement post is here

Apparently they aren't paid a whole lot anyways, so that's another reason not to spend a lot of time working on an AMV.


Yep, I did that one and although it was fun working with anime, it's totaly different then making an AMV for a hobby. To do a real good job based on how one would really want to see it would cost way too much time... Considering you have to justify being paid, you don't want to spend hundreds of hours... Then as with any other project I have done for clients, it's a real treat to get to do what you want since it happens on very RARE occations.

Video editing for a living is not the "Dream" job some people thing of. Better to stay with making AMVs for a hobby if you want to really enjoy it....

Vlad
User avatar
Vlad G Pohnert
 
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Postby MaboroshiStudio » Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:37 am

So true Vlad... I felt the same about the trailers I made for Bandai as well.

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:
KLin wrote:The Banner of the Stars trailer video was done by a member for Bandai. The announcement post is here

Apparently they aren't paid a whole lot anyways, so that's another reason not to spend a lot of time working on an AMV.


Yep, I did that one and although it was fun working with anime, it's totaly different then making an AMV for a hobby. To do a real good job based on how one would really want to see it would cost way too much time... Considering you have to justify being paid, you don't want to spend hundreds of hours... Then as with any other project I have done for clients, it's a real treat to get to do what you want since it happens on very RARE occations.

Video editing for a living is not the "Dream" job some people thing of. Better to stay with making AMVs for a hobby if you want to really enjoy it....

Vlad
User avatar
MaboroshiStudio
 
Joined: 01 Jan 2001
Status: Reports of my death were greatly exaggerated

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:04 pm

MaboroshiStudio wrote:So true Vlad... I felt the same about the trailers I made for Bandai as well.


Hey Joe, which trailer did you do? Just curious...

Vlad
User avatar
Vlad G Pohnert
 
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Next

Return to General AMV

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests