Old School editing vs seizuretiffic and effects

[omegaevolution]

errr I'm sure this will sound simple but, if the AMV is entertaining to me then it doesn't matter what style (old school or 'whatever-new-style-out-there'), category or anime it uses.

and to the synch discussion above, some people have their ways to synch, some don't even synch and I have seen that work in some vids O.O (don't have any links atm though). But I have a beat fetish when I edit, I just NEED to synch all the beats I can , either with effects, change of scenes, internal or action synch. Dunno if that makes me seizurific or not . Oh and I thought the the lyric synch was just match what we see in the vid with what we hear in the song lyrics O.O, I think your description of Lyric synch is more for Lyric beat synch (dunno if this has another kind of name >.>)

[Moonie]

errr I'm sure this will sound simple but, if the AMV is entertaining to me then it doesn't matter what style (old school or 'whatever-new-style-out-there'), category or anime it uses.

X2

lol I sometimes get a major beat fetish myself but I always try to keep things smooth though.
I've been doing it so long it just feels strange to not attack alot of beats sometimes. (which makes editing to a slow song hard sometimes >_<)
Don't think i've turned seizurific yet though

[Malificus]

The anime has to match the song in some way either with beat sync or lyric sync. Preferably both.

Why?

Seems so limiting.

how is that limiting? IF your not syncing to the beat or lyrics then what the hell are you syncing to?

why does a vid need sync?

What's the music video about then?

Beat-sync = Showing visual links to the audio's melodies/sounds/rhythms through effects, scene changes, etc.

Lyric-sync = Showing visual links to the audio's lyrics through effects, scene changes, etc.

If you don't have your music video have scenes that link up logically to the lyrics in the song, and/or you don't have it link up to any of the sounds in the song, having the music there would be pointless; it would just be playing alongside random clips and effects that have absolutely nothing to do with the music.

OMGmoodWhat'sthatbatman? O:

[BasharOfTheAges]

It all really comes down to if something is executed properly. A lot of older videos were done when it was infeasible to edit well to a song that suggested lots of beat sync so it wasn't done. If that sort of shit is pulled now, it's the creator being lazy, not a general hardware limitation of the times. There are good videos and there are bad ones just like there's good art and bad art. An AMV that is poorly executed is bad, plain and simple - whether that means abandoning sync when the song suggests it, using too many effects, not timing things correctly, poor scene choice, or any other thing. There's a big problem with speaking in generalities (that's why people don't like stereotypes) - any video should belong to only itself and be judged on ALL of it's merits and flaws, not categories you'd put it in to.

[Beast Spear]

I've never really liked effects much. Sometimes it's nice to have a little something, but "Eye candy videos" I find to be quite boring. I'd prefer some substance in the theme or idea of the AMV than just lots of effects, and the seizure inducing effects are...very annoying. When I have to close my eyes or turn away when watching something, that's pretty bad...

And if it's what most people prefer now...let them, you can't change their mind. But as proof by this topic, there are people who don't, so at least they can enjoy an old school video if it is released.

[Kevmaster]

I don't care about Editing Style, as long as the Video has something catchy that keeps me interested, it turns out to my liking.

[trythil]

The anime has to match the song in some way either with beat sync or lyric sync. Preferably both.

Why?

Seems so limiting.

how is that limiting? IF your not syncing to the beat or lyrics then what the hell are you syncing to?

Melodic motion (which isn't covered by strict beat-counting) and/or lyrical progression (which isn't covered by strict phrase-matching), to throw out a couple. Different methods to map those to visual motion.

Of course, if your definitions of "sync" encompass everything that might be in some way related to their generalizations, then there's no point in mentioning additional drivers.

[trythil]

Of course, if your definitions of "sync" encompass everything that might be in some way related to their generalizations, then there's no point in mentioning additional drivers.

Or, to put it in a cruder-but-perhaps-more-to-the-point way:

Where's your reductionism now?

[JaddziaDax]

okay "confession time" eh sort of...

my most recent video was something of a test of this theory (it was one of the many reasons i made it)... I usually don't make pure eye candy videos, I tried in the past and failed (put too much lyric/mood sync? - not enough effects?) anyways... I wanted to test to see if effects with no story would get more of a reaction than my last couple simple videos, and so far it has already gotten more local downloads and quicker responses than the last one.


personally for me though all the amv has to do is entertain me or keep me interested in some way and I'll like it... it doesn't have to fall into either category, i don't really like one of those categories over the other.

[lister007]

I personally like the 'old school' way where effects are used 'naturally! The effects are part of the AMV, the perfect example is Tainted Dohnuts, haven't seen it for a while but can't think of anything better, the idea can only be pulled of through keying and rotoing (if they are considered effects anymore) and it's done in a way that is not showy. You don't watch it and think 'wow look at those effects' you think how cool it would be for Spike and Vash to be in the same room! That what real effect are for and how people used to use them on the .ORG. Now people use then as the feature.