What makes a video re-viewable?

priuscomet · Post by **priuscomet** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:53 am

fo real tho.

i showed my roommate last year odorikuruu and she was amazed. she's never seen anime and that was her frist amv to watch. she was really taken by the vid. then she wanted to see it again and again. i sat there pushing repeat laughing at her while she just watched it. i showed her another vid, but she really like odorikuruu. i was really surprised at her reaction to the vid too.

i don't know what makes odorikuruu so highly appreciated. the music is one of those songs that when you hear it once, its stuck in ur head forever. the clips are all chibi's dancing and everyone just up and happy singing to the song. i guess it's just the fun factor of the vid that keeps people smiling and setting the vid on loop. its just basically a fun vid. i mean, there aren't many people who watch drama movies because they want to cry. people tend to go to the theatres to laugh their ass off. that's why comedy is so popular. its a happy thang

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 12:56 am

Reviewable is probably the shallowest of all the criteria. I mean, you're video could be as brilliantly put together as Citizen Cain, but just like the movie, have low replay value, or, it could be as base as a Tomb Raider and people will plop that baby in time and time again for the gun blazing, titty bouncing action. Aiming for a high reviewable score will only shackle your vid, so don't worry about it.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:33 am

alternatefutures wrote:Reviewable is probably the shallowest of all the criteria. I mean, you're video could be as brilliantly put together as Citizen Cain, but just like the movie, have low replay value, or, it could be as base as a Tomb Raider and people will plop that baby in time and time again for the gun blazing, titty bouncing action. Aiming for a high reviewable score will only shackle your vid, so don't worry about it.

Ohhh... I disagree. What is the purpouse of any entertainment medium (and you can't deny that AMV are simply a form of entertainment), it's to entertain of course. And it's a simple fact that people who are entertained will go back and re-watch. Re-viewability is just a more objective way of saying "How entertaining is the vid?" Besides all that, I don't know about the rest of you, but personally I'm out here to make someone smile, or cry, or laugh, or something, just so long as they feel an emotion. (What are the rest of you out here for if it's not to create emotion?) I made a great example of a video that did just the opposite of what I set out to do, and it's really well timed and synched and all (if I do say so myself) but it's a really boring video (it's not released yet so don't even look, not that I think anyone would). I recommend, alt, that you examine your goals and come back and tell us why it is that you create AMV.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:43 am

flint_the_dwarf wrote:My personal favorite of Kevin Caldwell's is his "Sleep Now" vid and that is extremely well synced (as good as "Believe") ans pretty short.

I don't think you want to put Kevin's name on "Sleep Now":
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/video.php?v=94

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:47 am

Ashton, I'm with alternatfutures on this one.

Why?

Well, because I don't think about the audience when I make my videos. To limit yourself to what you think people will like is a real shame, I think, partly because there is no way of telling what people will find entertaining and you partly because you shouldn't limit yourself to people's expectations.

My latest video does not have Reviewability at all, but it was a video I really really wanted to make because I thought it would be an interesting video and I enjoyed making it.

I couldn't give two craps as to whether it's entertainment or not.

"examine your goals and come back and tell us why it is that you create AMV."

Just because the goals are different doesn't mean they are bad. It seems that alternatefutures and I make music videos because the idea interests us and we enjoy the challenge of video editing. Making videos with the goal of having other people like them sounds like trying to win people's affections.

Sure I can understand the desire to make something entertaining but there's more to creativity than satisfying someone's desire to be entertained.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:49 am

TaranT wrote:
flint_the_dwarf wrote:My personal favorite of Kevin Caldwell's is his "Sleep Now" vid and that is extremely well synced (as good as "Believe") ans pretty short.
I don't think you want to put Kevin's name on "Sleep Now":
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/video.php?v=94

Kevin also has a Sleep Now video, to Key the Metal Idol:

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/legacy/video.php?v=574

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:05 am

Thanks AD. Even though you basically said everything I wanted to say, I'm still going to say it anyway ^_^

Why do I make AMVs? Honestly, because I can. That people are entertained is a happy side effect. If I wanted purely to entertain people I would spit out one or two videos a month, instead I'm in it for the challenge, and so my videos are now taking six+ months to complete. I'm out to climb a mountain, and you don't do something like that for the roar of the crowd when you succeed, but for the silent feeling of satisfaction you get when you reach the summit.

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:29 am

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Just because the goals are different doesn't mean they are bad.

I never said it was. I'm sorry if that came off the wrong way, what I was trying to say is that it's important that we all take some time and meditate on our objectives. I mean, I am here to create something great and memorable. I know I can't claim that now, but my objective is very clearly to create something that people can root for. Because it's just like music in a way, I go out to show others how I feel about something. When a person is truly immersed in my emotion, I think that's when a video is entertaining. So it's not like the two are polar opposites, on the contrary I believe they are inextricably bound to one another.
Besides, we are still talking about re-viewability right? We're kind of going off on an artistic tangent of what makes a video "good" which, we have established, is something very different than what makes it re-viewable.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:46 am

Ashton wrote:Besides, we are still talking about re-viewability right? We're kind of going off on an artistic tangent of what makes a video "good" which, we have established, is something very different than what makes it re-viewable.

But that's not what you are saying. By saying that 'how entertaining a video is' is inextricablhy linked to reviewability you are making a value judgment on the quality of a video based upon it's reviewability. You haven't left any room in your video ethos for good, entertaining but not very reviewable videos.

You say that being immersed in emotion is an example of entertainment - sure - but in this case entertainment and reviewability are NOT always linked. For example, I was immersed in emotion watching the movie Grave of the Fireflies but because the movie is so sad, I don't want to watch it again and again. I've seen it twice - once from my DVD and once at a cinema and I dont think I'll be opening the dvd case any time soon.

This is an example where reviewability and being immersed in emotion are not linked.

Also, I think reviewability doesnt affect the scores in the top 10% and i think that's honestly justified.

Hitori · Post by **Hitori** » Sat Aug 10, 2002 4:11 am

And then it all comes down to "personal preference."