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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by OtakuGray » Sun May 15, 2011 4:38 pm

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Castor Troy wrote:Most Hollywood editors don't even know what codecs are. :roll:
Quoted for truth.
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Otohiko » Sun May 15, 2011 5:02 pm

OtakuGray wrote:
ZetZu wrote:
Niotex wrote: Quoted for truth.
+1
Definitely agreed.
Yeah I also totally agree.
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by lloyd9988 » Sun May 15, 2011 7:13 pm

Maybe I'm at a loss too as to what codecs are as well. Could someone give me a brief explanation??

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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Fall_Child42 » Sun May 15, 2011 10:07 pm

Otohiko wrote:
ZetZu wrote:
Niotex wrote: Quoted for truth.
Definitely agreed.
Yeah I also totally agree.
I agree as well.
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Kariudo » Mon May 16, 2011 12:32 am

lloyd9988 wrote:Maybe I'm at a loss too as to what codecs are as well. Could someone give me a brief explanation??
Codec = COmpressor/DECompressor

Video can be represented as a sequence of red, green and blue values (there's other ways besides RGB, but this gets my point across just fine.) If you just leave the data like that (uncompressed), a single episode would take roughly 33.4GB of space (720x480*** pixels x 3 bytes per pixel x 24 frames per second x 60 seconds/minute x 24 minutes).

Codecs compress that information down to a more manageable size by using different techniques, and then decompress the data when you try to watch the video.

This is a gross simplification, but...
Lossy codecs throw away some parts of the video information to make files smaller.
Lossless codecs preserve 100% of the information, and have zero quality loss, but make larger files than their lossy counterparts.

***I don't care about the active region here, the point is uncompressed = big
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Castor Troy » Mon May 16, 2011 11:41 am

I'm glad everyone agrees :P

Editors in the industry only cut the clips and nothing more. They don't have the time nor do they care about the technical stuff. Half of them don't even know how to turn on their Avid system. :roll:

I remember one video I edited for a client, I asked him what codec he wanted and he was like "uhhh... quicktime".
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Mon May 16, 2011 12:53 pm

lloyd9988 wrote:Maybe I'm at a loss too as to what codecs are as well. Could someone give me a brief explanation??
CODECS are what allow you to Write & Read video in certain file formats (ie. COding & DECoding).

Analogy:
  • Codecs are to Video; as Dictionaries are to Books.
    Just as an English Dictionary can be used to interpret/write Books in English,
    the x264 Codec reads/writes Video in the x264 format.
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Pie Row Maniac » Tue May 17, 2011 1:20 am

Castor Troy wrote:I remember one video I edited for a client, I asked him what codec he wanted and he was like "uhhh... quicktime".
I remember having that level of technical knowledge when I was in high school. :uhoh: :lol:
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by Castor Troy » Tue May 17, 2011 8:14 am

Pie Row Maniac wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I remember one video I edited for a client, I asked him what codec he wanted and he was like "uhhh... quicktime".
I remember having that level of technical knowledge when I was in high school. :uhoh: :lol:
It was all about cinepak and mpeg1 back in those days!
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Re: Lossless codecs for REAL editors

Post by post-it » Tue May 17, 2011 11:54 am

Castor Troy wrote:
Pie Row Maniac wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I remember one video I edited for a client, I asked him what codec he wanted and he was like "uhhh... quicktime".
I remember having that level of technical knowledge when I was in high school. :uhoh: :lol:
It was all about cinepak and mpeg1 back in those days!
you forgot Umatic and Reel-to-Reel direct editing.

On this board you've got it lucky; even TV Stations only recognize Umatic Controllers
and Gen-Lock System Editing. Here, you can get exposed to Digital encoding:
.. this would have been impossible 20 years ago and non-productive even 15 years ago.
Mpeg-2 is fine for DVD's -- but I'm thinking; there HAS to be a better way!
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