Better Call Out for Developers/coders

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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby Zarxrax » Fri May 07, 2010 10:04 am

Something like coming a website is a lot of work. Its hard to find people willing to just volunteer all that time and effort. I think it would be better off to hire someone to do it, if we could get a donation drive going that could rake in enough cash.

I think the current site is really... complex. I mean the main menu has something like 50 different items.
If you look at other sites like youtube, they manage to put a LOT of similar kinds of functionality into significantly fewer pages.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby Zarxrax » Fri May 07, 2010 10:05 am

Blarg...

coming -> coding
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby downwithpants » Fri May 07, 2010 12:37 pm

:nose:
but yeah, my sentiments match zarx's (minus the freudian slip). contracting out site coding has been brought up as a possibility. if we can get the funds for it.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby SQ » Fri May 07, 2010 12:59 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Something like coding a website is a lot of work. Its hard to find people willing to just volunteer all that time and effort.

It's even harder to find people willing to do that if there is absolutely no system that allows developers to volunteer at all.

While I agree with you (in hiring a dev), I think we should still either take down the "calling all coders/devs!" notice on the main page and/or set up a system where it's actually possible for someone to volunteer.

Trying to find someone is only as impossible as we make it.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby dokidoki » Sun May 09, 2010 5:55 pm

SQ wrote:Right now, the only thing that mentions we need developers is on the front of the members page. It's very old, and tells potential users to join the developers usergroup... Which at this point does not exist.

Judging from the join dates of the people in the (not publicly visible) Programmers group, I'm guessing the functionality broke during the upgrade to phpBB3. I never noticed because activity in that forum is so dead.

A brief history of my work for the site:
When people wanted a "journal reply" system back in the day, I asked Phade for the code for the journal system. In Spring 2002 I created journal reply functionality and he never put it online. I thought, "screw it", and left it at that. I'm not sure what he was thinking (and I can't remember exactly what I thought) when he named me site coder when he resigned, but I think I was in denial about the whole thing.

Around mid-2006, I got tired of seeing all the unanswered threads in Site Feedback & Site Help, and bugged Phade and derobert for access to change stuff. (I did have some level of access, but hadn't used it) I went on to make the Donators Forum, AMV Alerts, Download Queue, and random stuff. I wanted to do streaming, but couldn't meet Phade's requirements so I didn't bother. Corran made it work out. I don't have as much time as I used to, but I just did the "AMV Spotlight" which Corran's code made fairly easy to do.

Anyway, there are/were a lot of people in that inactive forum, but few people were allowed to modify the code that I know of. In short, granting access is done by derobert, not me, so I never learned the process.

SQ wrote:How come there's no AIM Kissy face? We used to use that all the time.

I think I started messing with the selection after it fell into disuse. Added.

Didn't want to put in one that didn't match the phpbb2 style?

Yes and no. As I mentioned, I edited a couple to match the style, but with others there was no point.

Alsoalso, is anything being done about the original intention of the post - is there a developers group or a contact email or something now?
That's kind of more important than some emotes, I think. Unless you don't want [more] developers.

It's been discussed, but I don't think there's anything concrete to announce at this time, though dwp alluded to something.

Kionon wrote:Silly SQ. The Org doesn't have developers. It has dewelopers.

I can has theme song?

I think the current site is really... complex. I mean the main menu has something like 50 different items.
If you look at other sites like youtube, they manage to put a LOT of similar kinds of functionality into significantly fewer pages.

I thought some items in the new expandable menus (which both Corran and I worked on) were questionable, like "Site Help Forum" when you can go to the forums and then the subforum, but figured, "meh I can collapse it".
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby SQ » Sun May 09, 2010 6:22 pm

Thank you for the update Doki!

Curious- is there a journal reply function now?
And if not, will it ever be added eventually?
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby dokidoki » Sun May 09, 2010 6:27 pm

SQ wrote:Curious- is there a journal reply function now?
And if not, will it ever be added eventually?

I think I lost the code for it.
I added "send priv msg to this user", since I didn't want to end up re-programming something like LiveJournal. ("I don't like his reply so I wanna delete it!" etc etc)
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby SQ » Sun May 09, 2010 6:39 pm

Couldn't you take some opensource CMS and kind of edit it and apply it to this site?

Or I guess I am not really sure if code can be applied in that manner to a database like this.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby dokidoki » Tue May 11, 2010 10:24 pm

SQ wrote:Couldn't you take some opensource CMS and kind of edit it and apply it to this site?

The site is already integrated with phpBB. Integrating with another codebase would be somewhat of a hassle.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby SQ » Wed May 12, 2010 8:27 am

What if - and this is a crazy idea that probably won't work, but I'm just going to throw it out there -
you added a subforum that is hidden from the main index, or a seperate board completely, that auto-generated a thread for each user's journal.
Then this thread would auto-generate a post mirroring the journal's post. The journal system's "comment" function could allow people to reply to said thread, underneath said journal post.

While this may get confusing for people who wish to comment older journal posts, maybe a reply to said journal entries will automatically quote the journal entry in the post?

Crazy idea. Probably nonsense.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby JaddziaDax » Wed May 12, 2010 3:17 pm

I kinda like the reply system as it is (I kinda suggested it this way though, that way it wouldn't take a gigantic amount of coding)... I actually prefer to pm people as sometimes I don't want my responses public... Sometimes people will respond to other peoples journals in their journal as well (if they don't mind their responses being public). While having a reply system like livejournal would be neat, and useful, I don't think it should be a top priority seeing as there's other ways to respond or reply to what someone wrote.

it seems to me that Gaiaonline uses a forum/phpbb system similar to what you are suggesting
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby SQ » Wed May 12, 2010 3:21 pm

I think Gaia's journal system might work like what I'm suggesting.
But what I was thinking of when I was typing that was actually an invision board. If I remember some of the features correctly, anyway.
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby kickass331 » Tue May 18, 2010 2:55 am

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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby M'o'l » Wed May 19, 2010 8:04 am

well it would be cool to see ops for my own video which got deleted for lack of anime and now i cant read them :(. (i guess its same for other deleted ones)
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Re: Better Call Out for Developers/coders

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed May 19, 2010 5:49 pm

Milk Or Life! wrote:well it would be cool to see ops for my own video which got deleted for lack of anime and now i cant read them :(. (i guess its same for other deleted ones)

You abused the system and want something back? Be grateful removal of the video was the only repercussion.
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