Corran wrote:Raises hand. I haven't left an opinion since March 2004 and I rarely post in AMV Announcement these days. I know I would not give star ratings if I didn't have to (except on rare occasion) just as I don't currently give quick comments. However, because I have to rate them doesn't mean I'm going to rate blindly.
Okay. So one.
It is not hard for me to pick one of those. I don't have to sit down and think about it carefully or try not to offend the creator. I just go with my gut feeling.
Okay, so not one. I didn't say it was hard. I said it was
silly.
I think most people rate similarly otherwise the all time star scale would not have the same ranking. The videos at the top of this list are videos I would expect to win in audience vote contests. Whether or not a "seasoned amv critic" would agree with the list is beside the point. The star system is not about e-penis bullshit. It is about finding videos that would normally go overlooked.
This has not been my experience. I also have no idea what would win in audience vote contests, and on a totally personal note, I
do not care. With the exception of certain individuals, such as quadir, I am not remotely interested in feedback from non-editors. If I as, I would not be on the Org. And If I have nothing worth saying from an editor's point of view, then I usually say nothing at all. And, yet, if I DO feel compelled to leave an amusing little ditty of a response, I do so in the announcement forum, where it is part and parcel of the community code.
If the star scale system was absolute crap, the personalized suggestion query tool would not generate useful results. However, because I rate how I feel, my results (particularly when using method 2) tend to be fairly good.
Every highly rated AMV, with the exception of anything done by Koop, that I have seen come up has been something I do not want to watch. So I am not sure how you argue the system generates useful results or isn't total crap. My experience has been the opposite. If I want to know what the good amvs are, I just have to ask. I rarely ever use search function at all, and mostly only get new videos via the announcement forum or because of contests because I cannot trust star ratings as they now stand.
Convincing Phade to let me make the change you want would happen when hell freezes over. I've argued with him about changing less important details of the system to no avail. Even if he had no problem with it, there is no way I'm going to. Making the streaming system opt-in/out was a major PITA in itself.
This doesn't surprise me. I'm pretty upset with him, actually. Either he runs the site or he doesn't. He's never around, but he seems to hog tie you guys in a number of ways. Not to mention I am only part of this community as much as I am because I promised him, personally, years ago I would, and then he skipped out. I honestly believe he has forgotten that entirely. I know he's busy, and I know he has a life, but I still think it's pretty low to keep involving yourself in something you have shown yourself to no longer be interested in.
As for you not doing it, fine. It was just a suggestion. One I hold very dear because I really do believe that it is not in sync with freedom of expression of criticism, something this community prides itself in. I'd ask if you could do a zero stars button, but I figure that too would be the same as a no comment button. If all this is a simple logistical point "the system won't allow it, I can't program that" then it's fine. Just say so. I understand technical limitations, and I have no real knowledge of programming, so if you say a null result can't be integrated, or can't be without great difficulty, then I get that. I will take your word for it. I will not consider it a matter of disagreement, but rather a practical obstacle. I would be a douchebag for holding against you what you cannot reasonably do.
So my advice is, quit treating star ratings like they should be some kind of absolute indicator to the quality of a video, and keep giving your 3's if you can't be bothered to take one second to rate with your gut feeling.
Actually, I think they're no indicator whatsoever of the quality of a video. And, I can be bothered. I call that an announcement thread post or an opinion. I give threes because I think the system is ridiculous. Since it is ridiculous, it is only fair to give everyone the same neutral star rating. Everyone. Because I do
care about being fair.
I'm not getting paid so...

...Totally not the point.