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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby LittleAtari » Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:47 pm

I actually wanted to add to something. Rewatching Corran's encode of Sayde's video, the quality does seem to be better in other places than on some parts on the tube upload and vice versa. I'd need multiple screen shots of different scenes. The one I took isnt fair and is perhaps the only part where it's really bad like that.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby Corran » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:01 am

LittleAtari wrote:I actually wanted to add to something. Rewatching Corran's encode of Sayde's video, the quality does seem to be better in other places than on some parts on the tube upload and vice versa. I'd need multiple screen shots of different scenes. The one I took isnt fair and is perhaps the only part where it's really bad like that.

:P I was about to get on to you for cherry-picking scenes considering you had just corrected Godix when he cherry-picked one in his comparison.

And you are right, it was a typo. I forgot that there were three types of encodes on youtube now.

Edit: For anyone looking at these videos, I should note that fluid 3D animation does not compress as easily as 2D animation. The settings we are using will definitely produce noticable artifacts in this case. The second video was also bad "demo" since the original file is over-filtered to begin with... I only included it as a comparison to the video linked on Youtube...

Quality of the streams will depend on the amount of action in the video, the animation style of the show, and how well you have cleaned and compressed your local file.

For example, here is one of the videos I made back in 2003...
Filesize: 14.41MB
Examples removed

And here is a high motion 2D video of Decoy's...
Filesize: 14.68MB
Examples removed

I am satisfied with what we have considering it is only a preview.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby Kariudo » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:24 am

Corran, is there any reason why I can't see any of the videos in this thread?

tried updating the shockwave flash plugin for firefox
already using the most recent flash player (10.0.22.87)
cookies enabled
java/script enabled

Firefox 3.0.8
WinXP Pro sp3


...nvm, figured it out. I was blocking 3rd party cookies. Unblocked them and now the videos play.
Still posting this because it might help.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby Corran » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:29 am

Kariudo wrote:...nvm, figured it out. I was blocking 3rd party cookies. Unblocked them and now the videos play.
Still posting this because it might help.

Ah yeah that would do it. The way this is embedded the cookies will be for RDS, not the org.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby LittleAtari » Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:31 am

Corran wrote:
LittleAtari wrote:I actually wanted to add to something. Rewatching Corran's encode of Sayde's video, the quality does seem to be better in other places than on some parts on the tube upload and vice versa. I'd need multiple screen shots of different scenes. The one I took isnt fair and is perhaps the only part where it's really bad like that.

:P I was about to get on to you for cherry-picking scenes considering you had just corrected Godix when he cherry-picked one in his comparison.

I'm glad I caught it right after I posted or that would've been embarrassing XD.


Edit: For anyone looking at these videos, I should note that fluid 3D animation does not compress as easily as 2D animation. The settings we are using will definitely produce noticable artifacts in this case. Some videos will look better simply due to the amount of action in the video and style of the show. The second video was also bad "demo" since the original file is over-filtered to begin with but I only included it as a comparison to the video linked on <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73475">boochsack</a>...

For example, here is one of the videos I made back in 2003...
[Corran: Video removed from quote]

That does look pretty sexy :D.

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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby Nya-chan Production » Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:22 am

Corran wrote:For example, here is one of the videos I made back in 2003...


Oh my god, is that some greatly edited Shinobu goodness?

/gets

The embedding system pays off from the very beginning, it seems.

For the more practical side of the report - I was very pleased to see this high quality getting no problems with buffering, even when sitting on 64kB/s capped download - definitely good streaming, however it's done :<
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby derobert » Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:00 am

FYI, Corran and I worked all morning on it, and now the re-encodes are running. Should be soon now...
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby LittleAtari » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:13 pm

derobert wrote:FYI, Corran and I worked all morning on it, and now the re-encodes are running. Should be soon now...

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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:49 am

I have a question about how this effects comments on a video...

are we going to have a comment system similar to that of the tube/every other streaming site? where public comments can show up under the streaming version of the video?...

or will people be able to watch the streaming and leave full opinions on the video entry, and/or anon qcs? or will they have to still download the video in order to do that?

(I thought about this the other day and then forgot what my question was until now O.o)
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby derobert » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:01 am

There aren't any public comments currently.

There are anonymous quick comments, and I believe you can leave an opinion.

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... domvid.php

... should give an idea.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:38 am

You must be a moderator to stream this video.

your link gave me this^ (and the download bar)
hehe

but what I'm asking isn't what's already there, but how feedback on streaming is going to be implemented.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby derobert » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:22 pm

Weird. I thought that one worked for everyone, not just mods... But apparently I was wrong there....
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby derobert » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:37 pm

Ok, I just killed the mod check. Hopefully it works for everyone now. You can see the current feedback interface there.
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby derobert » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:15 pm

I believe this page should work for donators now, too:

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=118208

I'm sure all ya 3133t h4x0rz can figure out how to change the URL to try it with other videos. Try it with this year's VCA, for example.

[Corran: Actually that link will only work right now if you've previously streamed a video using the randomvid link Derobert posted earlier. >_>]

[dero: Wow, I'm just teh wrong today...]
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Re: Streaming from animemusicvideos.org

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:12 pm

ah and after a partial viewing the video i glanced at on the random link now shows up on my main page... i see the "you HAVE to star every video you glance at" policy is still in place O.o
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