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Music Genre Search

Postby rubyeye » Tue Jul 09, 2002 8:35 am

Do you think it would help to organize the music search by genres such as METAL / ROCK / ELECTRONICA / SOUNDTRACK / POP / RAP / COUNTRY / etc.?

It would help in streamlining the search for AMVs when looking for a particular 'style' instead of going through the entire list only looking for names you recognize. Maybe the same could be done for anime (TV / OVA / MOVIE), although I think most of us are pretty familiar with titles and/or really don't care.

However the music think might be a viable suggestion. I'm sure there are lots of artists in a particular field I would be interested in hearing but I don't recognize their name.
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Postby Phade » Tue Jul 09, 2002 9:36 am

Hey,

The problem with that is creating the categories and then categorizing the music. There are many wide opinions on what is what.

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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:57 pm

Hmm... well then couldn't you just make the genre categorization really generalized? The search would be less specific to what you're looking for but all-in-all it might work. I definately still see problems with it according to what people think is what type of music. But I don't think it's too bad of an idea aside from the fact that some music just cannot fit in generalized genres.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:36 pm

I kind of like not having a music genre search. Sure it might help if you're feeling in the mood for a certain style of music, but I think it's better not to have that option. Imagine the number of newbies that would come to the site, and use the music genre search to find all AMVs in a single type of music. It's kind of limiting, and not really fair to them to let them stick to a single type [of music].
To me AMVs are about variety; how many of us have downloaded an AMV by a band we didn't know, to a style and song we didn't know, only to end up loving a new type of music because of it? I'm sure there's more than a few people that have.
I think it's important that we be open-minded and broaden our horizons, and that we do the same for others. Could you imagine perpetuating the LP/DBZ phenom by giving people who've only seen those kind of videos more of the same? I know I'm pulling a 'big consequence-small action' thing, but just think about it...
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Postby kthulhu » Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:12 pm

Phade's right about defining music genres.Take,say,Rammstein for instance.Is Rammstein:

1.Industrial?
2.Gothic?
3.Symphonic Rock?
4.Strict German Music?
5.Speed Metal?

Can't entirely pigeonhole them,or many bands,into one specific genre,or even a broad genre.
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Postby ZeWrestler » Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:50 am

number 5 seems like the better choice.
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Postby derobert » Fri Jul 12, 2002 1:56 am

kthulhu wrote:Can't entirely pigeonhole them,or many bands,into one specific genre,or even a broad genre.

That's not a real obstacle --- let genres be fuzzy. Let people check off which genres they think a band is in, then average that all together to create a picture of the group/artist. A group can be 10% in A, 50% in B, 30% in C, 80% in D, etc.

I don't see any reason why a group can be but one and only one genre --- same thing with a song, btw. Actually, this might be even better when done on a song-by-song basis: Let people classify the songs, form the pictures of the songs, and from their induct onto the groups.
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Postby jbone » Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:51 am

derobert wrote:
kthulhu wrote:Can't entirely pigeonhole them,or many bands,into one specific genre,or even a broad genre.

That's not a real obstacle --- let genres be fuzzy. Let people check off which genres they think a band is in, then average that all together to create a picture of the group/artist. A group can be 10% in A, 50% in B, 30% in C, 80% in D, etc.

I don't see any reason why a group can be but one and only one genre --- same thing with a song, btw. Actually, this might be even better when done on a song-by-song basis: Let people classify the songs, form the pictures of the songs, and from their induct onto the groups.


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Postby rubyeye » Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:38 am

Well, if music is so broad, why do we categorize videos? You are classifying something that's created with something that's somewhat difficult to categorize?

I know it really breaks down to individual songs and stuff, but since I brought this up, I'm beginning to think that some of the problems people are expression about AMVs may partly be by fault of this grouping convention.

I wasn't there but AnimeEXPO is prime example. You know . . . that 'Fun' Category. WOW! What a backlash!
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:45 am

Well, creators tend to know what category their own amv fits into.

However, there's lots of amv creators who haven't got the foggiest idea about genres of music. You want proof, go to the amv chat room late at night :P :P
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Postby FirestormXIII » Fri Jul 12, 2002 3:13 pm

Yes, the music name game is a scary thing...
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Postby kthulhu » Sun Jul 14, 2002 5:07 am

<b>jbone</b>-That wasn't aimed at me,was it?I feel so hurt if it is :cry: .
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Postby mexicanjunior » Sun Jul 14, 2002 8:17 am

FirestormXIII wrote:Yes, the music name game is a scary thing...


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Postby jbone » Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:56 pm

kthulhu wrote:<b>jbone</b>-That wasn't aimed at me,was it?I feel so hurt if it is :cry: .


It was aimed at anyone who feels that people won't abuse music genres in the same way they abuse content categories (action/drama/fun/etc).
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jul 15, 2002 5:54 pm

Yeah but not everyone abuses content categories. Not many people. And when they do, it's so ridiculously obvious and therefore easily looked over. If I see a vid with every category I'll most likely laugh at it. It's rare when you find a vid that can have every type. It's the same way with music except that it's harder to categorize in the first place.

And also, the newbs won't use original music (most likely) and so they are easy to filter out. Sure they show up in the results but that's not much of a problem. And I think the point is to find music that you might like but haven't heard? Well I'm not really for or against I'm just stating my opinion.
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