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Kill off members who don't do anything.

Postby Anime Jedi » Sat Aug 24, 2002 11:22 am

I know this sounds pretty extreme, but hear me out. Have you ever searched through the "Other Members" section? Sure ther are tons of people there, but practically more than half seem like they never come to the site a-m-v.org. Their profiles are empty, no comments, no reviews, no music videos.
I figure that it's just a waste of a good login name. OK, maybe this sounds a little rude, just kicking out people because they don't participate in anything. But if that's all they do, nothing, than they can simply enter as a guest (in other words, don't log in). We can always give them a warning of some sort first, by e-mail. Anyways, that's what a guest is. To enter without any sort of commitement. (I forget where a saw this, it said you are a guest or something)
I say this because I like reading about new people. How their lives are, or just check what other kinds of people like AMVs. But this search is difficult when you pull up empty profile, after empty profile. I'm sure other members would appreciate this too.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Sat Aug 24, 2002 11:25 am

Oh ya, I remember where I saw the thing about guests. It's at the bottom of the main page for the forums. It just says how many users there are and how many guests. We could always say that someone is a guest until they actually log in.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sat Aug 24, 2002 11:19 pm

Some people join just to subimt videos. There's no reason to bother with filtering out which people have videos and which don't. Extra members don't really hurt us at all. It's basically just extra work.

Yeah I guess it's a waste of a log-in name, but I think we're all creative enough to think of one, eh?
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Postby Anime Jedi » Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:56 am

No, I mean there's nothing. I can totally understand if people join to submit videos, and don't put anything. Because their videos are in the catalog at least, right? But I'm talking about having nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. And other words I found in the thesaurus.
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Postby Lyrs » Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:46 pm

I wouldn't mind Phade killing off some "members," especially those that forgot their passwords or for some other reason, like say, they resigned their role as a member.

Here's my idea, if you haven't logged on in the last say month, your membership gets deleted.

But there's also one more feature to add and that is, once you have logged on you can choose to have a "Do not Delete" message of note by your name so that if for some reason you don't visit in that month, you don't get deleted.

What's more, ppl with videos get automatically exempted from the kill list. This makes it less cumbersome for ppl who just want to have their videos on the org.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:54 pm

That's a pretty good idea.
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Sounds like a great idea

Postby melezov » Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:34 pm

One should really find this to be a valuable contribution to the .org.. really.

But one month is a bit extreme.. I'm an active a-m-v.org member and yet sometimes I've ben more then 3 month without a computer..

I think that after three month emails should be automaticaly sent out warning users to login an reminding them of their old passwords so they don't freak out.. BUt after a period of let's say 6 months the account just gets deleted..

I think there are more than 40% of accounts who are just ghosts.. like you said.. It trully chewes me out..

Not because of the lack of usernames but becouse of the lack of will..
AMV .org is truly a wonderful idea and people shouldn't just abandon it like that..

ALSO I think there should be a "DELETE ACCOUNT" option available..
For instance, say I wish to destroy my account for whatever reasons I might need it to be distrupted..

Why not include that option and (for example) if you decided that was a bad idea / you were hacked and someone did it instead of you / you did it by mistake.. there should be a month period while that account is still available for recovery..

I think those couple of bits really shouldn't be hard to code.. considering how much work has been put into a-m-v.org till now.. And it would refresh, yes that's the correct word - REFRESH a-m-v.org

Kindof like cuting your hair so that it can grow stronger..
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Postby Anime Jedi » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:26 pm

That's another great point melezov. I never really put to much thought into the specifics but these ideas are pretty good.

Oh, ya. Everyone seems to keep bringing up my point about the username thing. I never meant to put it like there wasn't enough names, I was just having trouble coming up with solid points to argue with. :oops:
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Question mark.

Postby melezov » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:39 pm

Hmm..

I have a question..

Do the site administrators ever actually read these suggestions?
Becouse I know there are too many of them, and people tend to repeat what others already noticed..

I'm a bit new to the forums.. i never interacted with the .org using them so I'm not that hot with info..

Considering the whole Killing of accounts bit:
I know I am not the reference judge here but i really think that this method could be easily adapted into the a-m-v.org site shell..

I'm not talking about the "Delete my account" bit <- that requires a whole .org redesign, but think "Killng old accounts" idea...

It would take maximally an hour of code and beta testing and one post to the main page confirming the new rules.. but then again, who am I to say.. It could almost easily also take the whole .org shell re-compile..
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Postby Anime Jedi » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:47 pm

melezov wrote:Do the site administrators ever actually read these suggestions?
Becouse I know there are too many of them, and people tend to repeat what others already noticed..


No idea. If they do, that would be great. I'm sure they do once in a while, though. Anyways, it doesn't really matter. I just think of this section as a place where we can all dream and share those dreams with others. ^_^
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Postby kiddingchris » Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:26 pm

yeah, the time period has to be longer, what about military people? they sometimes are away for months at a time.
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Re: Kill off members who don't do anything.

Postby The Non-Professional » Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:31 pm

well actually i know people who signed up here because they thought you had to be a member to download videos. also i know people who sign up post there videos and never return now that is the purpose of this site but some people post 15 vids at one time put links saying download it here and the links are dead i hate those people. so alot of people sign up because of ignorance. but i think the whole delete member thing is a bit too far what if the people just dont post if they just dont do that sort of thing thats no reason to delete them. but i do agree with the fact that you shoiuld have a delete account option but then again i dont i know how to get into a few accouts that arent mine in here and if there was a delete button i could just go in there account and delete there account without them knowing so what if someone got in your account and deleted it. you wouldnt like that. theres one 2 thigns that should be done to the forums get rid of the post counters (cause some people get out of control or people critizie other people because they post to much) and get rid of the way off topic forum i feel theres just no need for it theres way too much spam in the off topic forum already we dont need a way off topic to add to the spam. also even if people did get e-mails saying if you dont log in your acount will be deleted they will log in once just enough for there account not to be deleted and then go another 6 months without loging in so its useless. i say someone or phade should make a page so that when you register it tells you everything about everything in this site and making AMVs so that way they dont have to look for guides and or ask questions in the forums and sound stupid and get chewed out. iv seen to many people get flamed and never return. so the second you register it takes you to a very detailed guide of being a newbi. i think iv typed to much now...
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Postby Lyrs » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:16 pm

No harm intended, but non-professional, it's really hard to read your post. Your suggestions are good but it takes a while to locate them when it's some clutter up.

If you put the messages into paragraph format I think it'll be easier to read, so that ppl will not be detered from reading it.

Anyway, I do wish the mod's read these suggestions, even if they might not give a ____ about what we say, because I would hope that that's part of their job as being mods.
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Postby The Non-Professional » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:22 pm

sorry bout that i just never type that much in the forums so i dont know if its readable or not
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:43 pm

Lyrs wrote:Anyway, I do wish the mod's read these suggestions, even if they might not give a ____ about what we say, because I would hope that that's part of their job as being mods.


Of course the mods read these posts - but it's not the mods that can implement things like this. Moderators only have control over the forums, and limited control at best.

As for the actual initial suggestion - exactly what is the point? I mean, they don't take up any real resources - just a couple of bytes in the database. I take up more with one video entry than 30 people who have just registered a name and a login.

It wont actually help the org by doing this but I bet there will be a time when the person who has registered visits the forum to find they've been erased and gets pissed off.

Again, there's no point (and it was actually mentioned on the old forum and the conclusion was that there's no point although Phade further mentioned that he'd probably do a minor cleanup after 3 years of the site being up and running)
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