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Postby downwithpants » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:02 pm

i hate to complain because i really like this website and all the features, but here are some things that might or might not improve it.
i donno if these have been requested or not.
here they are in order of importance (to me):

1. in calculating the top favorite videos/anime, use sum(1/rank). the current formula, sum = sum(((101-anime.position)/100)+1), gives popular videos too much of an advantage. Example: Ten people watch Video A and think its decent, but nothing great. Nine of these ten people then watch Video B but think its the greatest thing they've seen. If the ten people gave Video A a rank of 10, and the nine people give Video B a rank of 1, Video A would still beat Video B, which in my opinion, isn't right. by using sum(1/rank) it would take 10 people voting a 10 for a video for it to match 1 person voting number 1.

2. a link from the forum profile to the a-m-v.org profile. i know people can add org profile links in their signatures, but most people don't and sometimes when your reading someone's post, you want to see their org profile, and its a real hassle searching for their profile on the org.

3. merge "escaflowne" with "vision of escaflowne" on the favorite anime list. i complain only because its my favorite anime, and it would be ranked much higher if they were combined. u don't have to delete one of the titles, because i know in the future people are going to enter both names, but if u can add up the two scores, and list them under the title "escaflowne/vision of escaflowne," it'd be a better representation of the anime's popularity.

4. have main page announcements also go on member page announcements. i have the member page bookmarked so there were a few times i was clueless about some change in the website until i heard someone talk about the announcement on the main page.

5. this is a small complaint and i dont even know if this will work well, but use the median for usefulness instead of the mean. seeing how the mean is at 162 (at the time of writing this) and the most useful reviewers are in the thousands, and having taken a basic statistics course, i would have to presume that the curve of usefulness is highly skewed. in which case, the median would be a better representation of the typical user's usefulness. but i dont know how much harder it is to calculate the median than the mean (u would have to pool all the opinions and the number of words, then order them and find the middle one or something).
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Postby jonmartensen » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:29 pm

1 is the lowest you can get, 10 is the highest.
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Re: a list of suggestions

Postby Phade » Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:31 pm

Hey,

downwithpants wrote:i hate to complain because i really like this website and all the features, but here are some things that might or might not improve it.
i donno if these have been requested or not.
here they are in order of importance (to me):

All suggestions are encouraged. :-)

downwithpants wrote:1. in calculating the top favorite videos/anime, use sum(1/rank). the current formula, sum = sum(((101-anime.position)/100)+1), gives popular videos too much of an advantage. Example: Ten people watch Video A and think its decent, but nothing great. Nine of these ten people then watch Video B but think its the greatest thing they've seen. If the ten people gave Video A a rank of 10, and the nine people give Video B a rank of 1, Video A would still beat Video B, which in my opinion, isn't right. by using sum(1/rank) it would take 10 people voting a 10 for a video for it to match 1 person voting number 1.

The point of the list is to list the popular anime.

downwithpants wrote:2. a link from the forum profile to the the Org profile. i know people can add org profile links in their signatures, but most people don't and sometimes when your reading someone's post, you want to see their org profile, and its a real hassle searching for their profile on the org.

Working on it... ;-)

downwithpants wrote:3. merge "escaflowne" with "vision of escaflowne" on the favorite anime list. i complain only because its my favorite anime, and it would be ranked much higher if they were combined. u don't have to delete one of the titles, because i know in the future people are going to enter both names, but if u can add up the two scores, and list them under the title "escaflowne/vision of escaflowne," it'd be a better representation of the anime's popularity.

Aliasing system. Working on it... ;-)

downwithpants wrote:4. have main page announcements also go on member page announcements. i have the member page bookmarked so there were a few times i was clueless about some change in the website until i heard someone talk about the announcement on the main page.

Maintaining announcements is kinda a pain. There are currently three places where it can happen: Home page, member main page, announcements forum. I'll try to come up with a better way to keep track of them.

downwithpants wrote:5. this is a small complaint and i dont even know if this will work well, but use the median for usefulness instead of the mean. seeing how the mean is at 162 (at the time of writing this) and the most useful reviewers are in the thousands, and having taken a basic statistics course, i would have to presume that the curve of usefulness is highly skewed. in which case, the median would be a better representation of the typical user's usefulness. but i dont know how much harder it is to calculate the median than the mean (u would have to pool all the opinions and the number of words, then order them and find the middle one or something).

The only thing that "usefullness" measures is the number of words in the opinion. The assumption is that the more someone writes about the video, the more useful the opinion was. Some people are very verbose.

A better system would be to have the video creator rank the usefullness of each opinion received. That would more accurately reflect the usefullness of opinions, but it would rely upon return feedback from video creators.

Thanks again for your suggestions!! ^_^

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Re: a list of suggestions

Postby downwithpants » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:11 pm

Phade wrote:Hey,

downwithpants wrote:1. in calculating the top favorite videos/anime, use sum(1/rank). the current formula, sum = sum(((101-anime.position)/100)+1), gives popular videos too much of an advantage. Example: Ten people watch Video A and think its decent, but nothing great. Nine of these ten people then watch Video B but think its the greatest thing they've seen. If the ten people gave Video A a rank of 10, and the nine people give Video B a rank of 1, Video A would still beat Video B, which in my opinion, isn't right. by using sum(1/rank) it would take 10 people voting a 10 for a video for it to match 1 person voting number 1.

The point of the list is to list the popular anime.



If by popularity you mean how many people have seen and put the amv/anime on their top 100/10 list, that can be determined by sorting by votes. Right now, sorting by score gives exactly the same results as sorting by votes in both the top favorite videos and top favorite anime, making the separation of the two categories practically useless.

Using sum(1/rank) or any formula that gives a higher ranked video/anime a greater score discrepancy from a lower ranked video/anime than sum(((101-anime.position)/100)+1) does would show which videos/animes were really popular and really impressed them. And if the user wanted to just see which animes are really popular, they can sort by votes.

Anyways, thanks for responding and keep up the great work on the site.
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Postby downwithpants » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:20 pm

oops, the top amv/anime lists aren't exactly the same, but they're almost the same and the top 10 on both lists are identical when sorted by votes and score. my previous opinion still stands though.
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